c4 as white: genius or mistake

koala8

c4 as white I think is a mistake because it doesn't give as much central control

 and doesn't let either bishop out
NewbyGai

lol what if black did d5?

AndyClifton

You're supposed to eat those eucalyptus leaves, not smoke em.

nyLsel

No it does control center d5 square. 

pfren

Indeed, it's a losing blunder. Care to show us the refutation?

Scottrf

It's neither genius nor a mistake.

It's just a standard opening move, slightly less popular than a few of the others.

TheOldReb
nyLsel

It's a opening theory.

AndyClifton

I see that Reb has resorted to a pixel version of his trademark slogan... Laughing

TeraHammer

It is good against polish people.

1RedKnight99
TeraHammer wrote:

It is good against polish people.

why?

theoreticalboy

Is this topic a genius mistake, or mistaken genius?  Either way, I've gotta say it's genius.

VanillaKnightPOC

Since Kasparov used it to win a must win game against Karpov to retain his world title I'm going to pick genius.

DutchBagel

its move 1, how could it be genius?

koala8

If you know chess Dutch you'll find that each and every move counts ;) and I'll research main lines with c4 and show them

koala8

I may be busy so it could take a bit

neo-metacrash

How is this a mistake? I've won many OTBs when black played 1... e5 in response to my 1. c4. 

Mattius

If i had to play that move i would play this:

Basically getting a transposition into something like the Rubinstein.

koala8

ok here are some main lines

this is known as the english opening main lines

TeraHammer
jrzmath99 wrote:
TeraHammer wrote:

It is good against polish people.

why?

It is a counter to the Polish defense: 1...b5 ;)