Clemenz Antimodern Attack

  • #1

    This awesome opening is characterized by h3, e3, b3 and Bb2 vs anything!Cool In particular, it can appear starting from Clemenz opening 1.h3Wink or as a variation of Nimzo-Larsen attack 1.b3.

     

  • #2

    can you share the ideas of this opening Yigor?or some games?

  • #3
    thaskaiser wrote:

    can you share the ideas of this opening Yigor?or some games?


    Hey TonyWink, sure, I play this regularly. But please give me rather 4 moves for black. How would U play vs this opening? Then we can discuss the sequel.

  • #4

    For example, Clemenz antimodern attack vs 2 central pawns + 2 knights:

    Here 5.Bb5 is quite good.Cool

  • #5

    e5 , d5 , Nc6 and Bd6

    tnx for your time YigorCool

  • #6
    thaskaiser wrote:

    e5 , d5 , Nc6 and Bd6

    tnx for your time Yigor


    Nice choice: 2 central pawns + knight + dsB

     

    Well, it looks like 5.Nf3 is the strongest continuation for white cuz on 5.Bb5 there is a nice counter-attack 5...Qg5!

  • #7
    Yigor wrote:
    thaskaiser wrote:

    e5 , d5 , Nc6 and Bd6

    tnx for your time Yigor


    Nice choice: 2 central pawns + knight + dsB

     

    Well, it looks like 5.Nf3 is the strongest continuation for white cuz on 5.Bg5 there is a nice counter-attack 5...Qg5!


    I'm confused. Please review, Yigor.

  • #8

    Just what i thought. thanks Pretz. I think the line you gave is a bit risky but active. I like the idea though, but i'm not too sure. that still would depend on whom im facing with. 

  • #9

    AmateurPretzel and Stinger, thanx for correcting me, mates!Smile

  • #10

    I understand the moves b3, Bb2 and e3 - they could fit into a number of opening setups. But I don't understand what h3 is for. To me it looks like it just wastes a move and weakens white's kingside. Please could you explain?

  • #11
    madhacker wrote:

    I understand the moves b3, Bb2 and e3 - they could fit into a number of opening setups. But I don't understand what h3 is for. To me it looks like it just wastes a move and weakens white's kingside. Please could you explain?


    Beautiful pawn structureSmile and the conrol of g4 square. But U are right, at master level, h3 would be a waist of tempo in many variations.

  • #12
    Yigor wrote:
    Beautiful pawn structure and the conrol of g4 square. But U are right, at master level, h3 would be a waist of tempo in many variations.

    Sorry, I'm not convinced. Weakening g3 doesn't look like a great pawn structure to me, especially as white's natural plan of playing for the f4 break becomes much more difficult due to the threat of Qh4 and/or a knight getting into g3. And why do you want to control g4? What is going to go there which is going to cause so much harm? 

  • #13
    madhacker wrote:
    Yigor wrote:
    Beautiful pawn structure and the conrol of g4 square. But U are right, at master level, h3 would be a waist of tempo in many variations.

    Sorry, I'm not convinced. Weakening g3 doesn't look like a great pawn structure to me, especially as white's natural plan of playing for the f4 break becomes much more difficult due to the threat of Qh4 and/or a knight getting into g3. And why do you want to control g4? What is going to go there which is going to cause so much harm? 


    Well, I just like to start sometimes with h3, that's all.Cool

  • #14

    I know that h3 is not the best move in many of these variations but it's not a mistake and gives a pawn structure that I like.Cool

  • #15
    Yigor wrote:

    AmateurPretzel and Stinger, thanx for correcting me, mates!


    np, mate. actually, it us that you are correcting for good 'coz we are learning from you. pls go on.

  • #16

       well i am not only an ameture but also a peasant when it comes to the chess world, but, in the simplist of books it becomes obvious that this opening secuence does nothing More, nor Short there of, switching Black to white and white to black under the Best of circumstances, or Lacking, Slightly There of. YO, Kapish? 

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