Fianchetto Benoni question...

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #1


    So I've switched to a 1.d4 Catalan repertoire but the problem with the move order 1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3.g3 seems to be the move 3...c5. I can't find a way to deal with it without feeling that I'm worse as white.

    I know how to play against the Benoni if its played right away on move 1 or 2 (I dont play the Fianchetto variation then) but this line is annoying me

    4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 b5!? 6. Bg2 d6 and so on....

    It seems like Black has gotten in b5 for free and I prefer his position. Normally, the Benoni is very cramped but here Black seems to be very comfortable with ...b5 in already.

    Is there some way around this or is it just one of those things I will have to accept as a Catalan player. I suppose I could start with 3.Nf3 but the main point behind 3.g3 was to avoid QID lines.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #2


    Yea thats the variation

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #3


    If you don't want to give black so many options, pick a less pathetic opening.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #4


    I love this "if the top players play it then I can/must/will play it" nonsense.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #5


    Top players who use it use it to bore their opponents, like Anand Vs Topalov. 

    It is pathetic in the sense that black has many options, and he is going to do everything he can to prevent your boring style of play from succeeding. 

    I love this, low level chess players who think they can understand the subtleties of superGM openings and then complain that they can't!

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #6


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  • 5 years ago · Quote · #9


    Wow what a crazy line! Seems fun to play though...

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #10


    I don't know what sort of game you want but I like 4.Nf3 because of the dynamic positions you can get.

    The symmetrical English was all kinds of fun when I played stuff like this. Unfortunately Black only wanted maroczy binds over and over and over and over.....
  • 5 years ago · Quote · #11


    ciljettu wrote:

    The Catalan is indeed a very decent opening and particularly handy for the older club player. Just because it is not cutting edge theory does not mean it is unsound.

    I don't think any opening that requires the queen to go to e3 is good for club players LOL.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #13


    White has many options in each Sicilian because he is white! The main advantage of the first move is that you restrict your opponents options; therefore black should be feeling limited in his choice of moves (else he loses a pawn, concedes too much space, ends up with a bad piece etc.) and any opening where black doesn't feel this pressure has only let black equalise. Such an example is the line given by the OP.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #14


    BIindside wrote:

    you have a point, although It's barely fair to call the opening pathetic based on a line that is not all that common.

    It most other Catalan lines white does gain a concession, usually in the form of strong pressure, or a cramped position for black. 

    Fair point. But I still feel the level of sophistication required to play it well is far beyond that of the OP. In my experience, club level players play it to hide their lack of tactical skills.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #15


    Just because Black has so many options doesn't necessarily mean he has equalized though. IMO, the Catalan exposes you to many different types of positions, which is good. Its may not be as crazy tactical as the KG but its a good balance.Tactics are known to arise from good positions.

    This fianchetto Benoni line is quite tactical as shown by Pfren's lines.

    The Catalan is definately not something like the London System. Now that isn't particularly very tactical at all....

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #16


    London System is worse, but Catalan is only a step above.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17


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