French vs Sicilian--the old debate

pdve

My coach says that the two are cousins.

DigitalStrike

Two completely different animals. The Sicilian is a direct challenge to 1. e4 whereas the French is simply a very solid if somewhat cramped opening choice for black. The Winawer can be complex, but most lines in the French are strategic in nature, aiming for the queenside while white tries to attack the kingside.

pdve

ya i agree but the french can be aggressive too.

IMBacon

Any opening can be "aggressive"

blueemu
DigitalStrike wrote:

Two completely different animals. The French is a direct challenge to 1. e4 whereas the Sicilian is simply a very solid if somewhat cramped opening choice for black. The Dragon can be complex, but most lines in the Sicilian are strategic in nature, aiming for the queenside while white tries to attack the kingside.

Fixed that for you.

tuoyuan

na none of them are direct challenge e5 is

pdve
IMBacon wrote:

Any opening can be "aggressive"

 

any opening can be aggressive if you know the ideas behind it.

pdve

@blueemu, the Dragon is a poor choice for anyone under master level, or maybe expert level. the yugoslav attack is too dangerous.

Preggo_Basashi
pdve wrote:

My coach says that the two are cousins.

I read "my coach says that the two are countries"

pdve
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
pdve wrote:

My coach says that the two are cousins.

I read "my coach says that the two are countries"

LOL.. I'm sort of deciding which one to play between French and Sicilian and have decided in favor of French.

Preggo_Basashi
pdve wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
pdve wrote:

My coach says that the two are cousins.

I read "my coach says that the two are countries"

LOL.. I'm sort of deciding which one to play between French and Sicilian and have decided in favor of French.

Yeah, they're both great openings, pick whatever you like.

I played the French for a while.

pdve

well my reason is that the sicilian is too much to learn. you must learn the anti sicilians and everything whereas with the French there aren't that many anti-Frenches other than Labourdonnais variation and the exchange variation. I still don't know the plans against the Labourdonnais variation but I have learned some theory for the exchange French from some Daniel King videos.

Preggo_Basashi

Labourdonnais is a sideline you probably wont see too often, as is the KIA.
1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 is another one

 

Yeah, there's more to learn in the Sicilian.

Skunkwerx
blueemu wrote:
DigitalStrike wrote:

Two completely different animals. The French is a direct challenge to 1. e4 whereas the Sicilian is simply a very solid if somewhat cramped opening choice for black. The Dragon can be complex, but most lines in the Sicilian are strategic in nature, aiming for the queenside while white tries to attack the kingside.

Fixed that for you.

Neither is a direct challenge to 1.e4.

 

1...c5 presents an indirect challenge to 1.e4, then sets up a flexible center.

 

1...e6 sets up a rigid center, then presents an indirect challenge to 1.e4 (also via ...c5).