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How do you defend against Queen A4 or Queen F4 openings?

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jforrest1980

 I see this in alot on my low ranking games. First move by opponet is to move the pawn 1 or 2 spaces in front of the king and then immediately bring out the Queen to the sidelines. I normally play D3 D4 or E3 E4 pawn opening myself. If my opponet brings out the Queen to the sidelines I defend with my king or queen pawn, or Knight. Is this the correct way to play against this.

 And while we're on the subject I noticed when I open like this and try for a Ruy Lopez opening instead of when I bring my Bishop out to freeze the knight my opponet always plays the pawn to make me run away. From watching the videos here online I get the idea this is not the way to defend Ruy Lopez, but it makes me have to retreat my bishop and break the don't move a piece twice in the opening rule. What is the correct way to defend this also? Thanks everyone :)

Oh, and is it normal for someone like myself who studies chess a lot the last few months to feel like they do better against high ranking opponents? When I play on chesspresso I play sometimes over 2k rated players, and although I never win, I always give a good game. But when playing low ranking players who have no idea about openings I feel like I do much worse because I can't stick with my openings and it messes up my game because I have to break rules, like deploying a new piece every move. I feel like against low ranked players I spend a lot of time moving pieces twice because they always attack every piece. Anyway, I hope that makes sense. Thanks again.

Mezmer

Probably what you're seeing is someone trying for "Scholar's Mate" or something similar.

From wiki

"Scholar's Mate are quite common among beginners. After 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nc6 3. Bc4, if Black continues 3... Nf6? then White can end the game immediately with 4. Qxf7#. However, Black can easily avoid the mate: either 3... g6 or 3... Qe7 defend against the threat. (If White renews the Qxf7 threat after 3... g6 4. Qf3, Black can easily defend by 4... Nf6, and develop his bishop later via fianchetto to g7.)

Or White might try this sequence of moves: 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Bc5 3. Qh5 (threatening Scholar's Mate on f7) and now 3... Qe7! (3... g6? here would be a big mistake, allowing 4. Qxe5+ and 5. Qxh8) and Black is not only safe, but will attack the White Queen later with Nf6. Black could alternately have stopped White's plans early on by playing 2... Nf6! instead of 2... Bc5."

 

As for playing higher rated opponents - yes! This is a great idea as you'll be exposed to sound principles and play which will only benefit you if you learn from how they play and what your mistakes were!

GatheredDust

Regarding the Ruy Lopez note:

If black plays a6 then just play Ba5. Pawn to b5 will hurt their queenside, so most people don't play that. It's not really "breaking the rule" since a6 doesn't really develop anything either.

jay6977

Haha, that means there is nc3 already ,when the bishop come to d2 night is free in c3 and generate him to the d5 pawn leading to a discovered attack . Even if you survive a discovered attack you are still paying big price by losing your pawns in e2 f2 and finally collapsing both side .

SackAllMyPieces

resign

Ilampozhil25

good job this is the most weird thing ever

queen f4 openings

qd1-f4 yes

ba5

yes the bishop on b5 goes to a5, which is attacked by the c6 knight

also, who told op that a6 is not how to play the ruy as black

it is

most people dont play b5, because it is bad?

tell that to all the top gms who play 1...e5

#4 is irrelevant, and nonsensical

to #1, obviously against queen attacks you should push center pawns defend them with knights and not hang anything

and yeah its annoying that low rated players play weird stuff and you dont get to play what you want neither can you punish it though

goommba88

lower players always love to move their queens early/ there isnt anything u can really do about it, except accept the free tempo's they give you. It prob didnt help that Nakamura played (1.e4 e5 2.Qh5)

it in several tournaments during his younger years..

later dudes

goommba88