How to defend 1. e4 c5 2. e5?! ...

  • #1

    I came across this one in a game today.  I belive it's not recommended for white, but wasn't quite sure how to defend it. It ended up with an exchange of 2 pawns from both of us, and white's queen in the middle of the board.  Not quite what I wanted from a questionable opening for white... I still won the game though =p.

     

    Once again, the first couple moves were (I was black) ...

     

    1. e4 c5 (sicilian defense(

    2. e5?! Nc6

     

    I forget what happened from there.  It wasn't an online game and I typically don't record casual games such as this one.  What's a good black defense for this white opening?

  • #2

    Your reply is fine. If White plays an early Nf3, then just keep pressuring the pawn. If White plays f4, then you go for an early ...d6 and then pressure e5 if White doesn't accept. It's kinda like the mentality of the French Defense actually, only Black is less cramped because of the possiblity of breaking with ...d6.

  • #3

    u laugh at white for wasting a move

  • #4

    Ive also played many games against 2. e5 and it's usually not long before i have an advantage...but thats because most of the players that chose this opening are very New around 1200-1500.

    i also continue with 2. Nc6

    Before i started commenting on this, i was sure 2. e5 was just a bad move, but now i think its just a pointless one, it has not bite to it...somany better openings to choose from.
    Id like to see some Master's Opinions on this.
  • #5

    I typically respond with an immediate d5 followed by by e6, the e5 pawn will become a weakness and difficult to defend.

  • #6

    No, dschaef2, you are letting White transpose into the French Advance Variation.  It isn't much for White, but it's better than he deserves in this move order.

    2 ...Nc6 and 3 ...d6 is going to be the proper approach, where White has wasted time and gained nothing for it.

  • #7

    My mistake.  Well the pawn structure is exactly the same, which is what I was referencing.  The position is different as black would develop the light square bishop outside the pawn chain in the CK.  But the c5 pawn move is usually played in the CK advance to reach the same pawn structure.

     

    I sometimes play the CK but never the french, so this is good to know :D

  • #8

    Thanks everyone, for your time and knowledge. You have all been a real help in some of my current games. 

  • #9

    This is a 3 year old post, but I feel like commenting. I played a game today and I prefer playing this:



  • #10

    Haha, you found this old post? Wow, 3 years ago I was a 1000 who thought I knew how to play the Sicilian, and now I'm 28 points from my expert title in the USCF. (rated 1972).

    Good memories! :p.

  • #11
    zezpwn44 wrote:

    Haha, you found this old post? Wow, 3 years ago I was a 1000 who thought I knew how to play the Sicilian, and now I'm 28 points from my expert title in the USCF. (rated 1972).

    Good memories! :p.

    Congratulations zezpwn! :)

  • #12

    Very nice.  Thank you one and all.  I have not seen this in any of my games but I was always haunted by this play (1. e4 c5, 2.e5  ???).   I have to say that I now can play 1.e4 c5,  2.e5 e6, if it ever happens in any of my games.   Thank you all very much.  I feel a great sense of freedom. 

  • #13

    honestly 2...e6?! seems rather poor to me. Dshaef's (#5) 2...d5 is a much more convincing answer, if you follow it with 3...Bf5 rather than 3...e6?!, which is not bad in itself but tends to traspose to a variation of the french where white is actually playing for a little advantage; this is far more that white deserves for playing 2.e5?. 3...Bf5! instead is very easily equal for black, it's a caro kann andance variation with an extra tempo for him (he played c7-c5 in one go instead of c7-c6-c5). 

  • #14
     
    I tried this and I won.
  • #15
    dschaef2 escribió:

    I typically respond with an immediate d5 followed by by e6, the e5 pawn will become a weakness and difficult to defend.

     

     

    WHAT THE FUCK??? You are in a bad French!

  • #16

    Thank you.  It seems that I do not have to worry about 2.e5, since the e5 pawn will be a serious weakness for white.  I now see that I have a great deal of good responses.  Now I do have some good and proven responses.   Thanks everyone.  

  • #17

    This is something that I did, It frees the file for our rook after castling, also develops the knight, combined with the Queen on B6, black has a good fighting chance.

  • #18
    So it has been 3 years now. I think it is time for a little reunion once again. Bresando says to do this thingy with the bishop. I still have a feeling that we will have to move pawn to e6 eventually.
     
    Also if he en-passants our pawn do we bring out the Queen?
  • #19
    Joemobson wrote:

    This is a 3 year old post, but I feel like commenting. I played a game today and I prefer playing this:



    I recently faced 2.e5 and played d6 somewhere. This is the game:

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