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Subbass9
Hi, i am new to the openings and defenses. And i am a bit confused now. Say i am white and i want to play/start ruy lopez opening. Black however starts with for example sicilian defense. What do i do? Do i try to keep using my spanish opening. Or do i respond to the sicilian defense of black? Thanks for a quick explanation. Greetings Stefaan.
baddogno

No, you have to respond to whatever black is playing.  Let me run over to the Explorer and copy/paste all the most common responses....Note that chances are quite good that black will respond with something other than what you want.  In essence, white gets to move first, but black gets to choose the defense.

 
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FrogCDE

No, it is only a Ruy Lopez if Black responds 1...e5. The fact is that you will have to learn some other lines to play against Black's main defences to 1.e4: the Sicilian, the French, the Caro-Kann and so on. Actually, at your stage, just the first few moves of each line will do, and then you can just rely on opening principles to get you into the middle game: develop your pieces rapidly, try to control the centre, castle early etc.

ThrillerFan

One side does not define an opening.  The opening is determined by both players.  There are even transpositional possibilities.

 

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.e4 d6 4.d4 Bg7 is a Kings Indian Defense, not an English Opening

 

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.d4 cxd4 is a Caro-Kann, Panov-Botvinnik Attack, not a Scandinavian Defense.

 

You cannot just say "I am going to play the Ruy Lopez".  You would have to say "I am going to play 1.e4 instead of 1.d4 or 1.c4 or 1.Nf3.  Now, if Black responds with 1...e5, I will play 2.Nf3 and if he plays 2...Nc6, I will play the Ruy Lopez, but if he plays 2...Nf6, I will play such-and-such a line against the Petroff.  Now if he plays 1...e6, I will play X against the French, and after 1...c6, I will play Y against the Caro-Kann, etc".

 

You cannot pigeon hole yourself to one opening and assume your opponent will comply.  Same with Black.  I am an avid French play, but I can only play it against 1.e4.  Against 1.d4, 1...e6 is no longer a French unless White plays 2.e4.  So I cannot simply say I play the French.  I play the French and Kings Indian as my main defenses to 1.e4 and 1.d4, and many times, a flank opening will transpose to a Kings Indian for me, but when it does not, I tend to play lines that lead to expansion on the kingside for black unless he is expanding there, like in Bird's opening or the Grob.

CRYYSIS
Subbass9 wrote:
Hi, i am new to the openings and defenses. And i am a bit confused now. Say i am white and i want to play/start ruy lopez opening. Black however starts with for example sicilian defense. What do i do? Do i try to keep using my spanish opening. Or do i respond to the sicilian defense of black? Thanks for a quick explanation. Greetings Stefaan.

Try to keep your opening and defensive both , you're welcome

m_connors

You cannot memorize all of the possible lines of various openings. Well maybe you can, I sure can't. Get a good book on openings to learn the basics and general principles. This will help you better understand how to respond to your opponent's moves.

As noted above, you need to evaluate your opponent's moves to see if there is a threat to you or a weakness you can exploit. This is also where a decent book on basic tactics would help. You want to make your moves count and as a beginner this is very hard to do without some guidance - hence the need for the books.

GM Yasser Seirawan has authored several books I found helpful. Two books really good for beginners are: Winning Chess Openings, and Winning Chess Tactics. Good luck.

 

Subbass9
Hi, Thanks for your responses. This is really helpful for me. I know what to do now.:-)
CRYYSIS
Subbass9 wrote:
Hi, Thanks for your responses. This is really helpful for me. I know what to do now.:-)

Always welcome

kindaspongey

Perhaps it would be a good idea to start with Discovering Chess Openings, a book about opening principles.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

Here are some books that set out to help the reader to choose specific openings:

Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014)
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/

https://www.chess.com/blog/ForwardChess/book-of-the-week-openings-for-amateurs
https://www.mongoosepress.com/catalog/excerpts/openings_amateurs.pdf

First Steps: 1 e4 e5
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdf

https://chesscafe.com/book-reviews/first-steps-1-e4-e5-by-john-emms/

First Steps: Queen's Gambit

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdf

My First Chess Opening Repertoire for White
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/vincent-moret/
Opening Repertoire 1 e4
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7819.pdf

Yasser Seirawan's Winning Chess Openings
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf

Be sure to try to use the openings in games in between sessions of learning. Most of the time, one faces a position with no knowledge of a specific move indicated in a book. One has to accept that as part of chess, and think of opening knowledge as a sometimes helpful aid. After a game, it makes sense to try to look up the moves in a book and see if it has some indication of how one might have played better in the opening. Many opening books are part explanation and part reference material. The reference material is included in the text with the idea that one mostly skips it on a first reading, and looks at an individual item when it applies to a game that one has just played. Resist the temptation to try to turn a book into a mass memorization project. There are many important subjects that one should not neglect because of too much time on opening study.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/learning-an-opening-to-memorize-or-understand
"... Overall, I would advise most players to stick to a fairly limited range of openings, and not to worry about learning too much by heart. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)
"... I feel that the main reasons to buy an opening book are to give a good overview of the opening, and to explain general plans and ideas. ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... If the book contains illustrative games, it is worth playing these over first ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... the average player only needs to know a limited amount about the openings he plays. Providing he understands the main aims of the opening, a few typical plans and a handful of basic variations, that is enough. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)
"... Everyman Chess has started a new series aimed at those who want to understand the basics of an opening, i.e., the not-yet-so-strong players. ... I imagine [there] will be a long series based on the premise of bringing the basic ideas of an opening to the reader through plenty of introductory text, game annotations, hints, plans and much more. ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2002)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627055734/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen38.pdf
"The way I suggest you study this book is to play through the main games once, relatively quickly, and then start playing the variation in actual games. Playing an opening in real games is of vital importance - without this kind of live practice it is impossible to get a 'feel' for the kind of game it leads to. There is time enough later for involvement with the details, after playing your games it is good to look up the line." - GM Nigel Davies (2005)
"... Review each of your games, identifying opening (and other) mistakes with the goal of not repeatedly making the same mistake. ... It is especially critical not to continually fall into opening traps – or even lines that result in difficult positions ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2007)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627062646/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman81.pdf