KID players,do you like playing against the four pawn attack?

topj

KID players,do you experience any big problems when you play against the 4 pawn attack?

Sith_Nazgul

Never play the King's Indian!

TheOldReb

I played KID for decades as my #1 defense against 1 d4 and 1 c4 and the white system that always gave me the most problems was the saemisch 5 f3 

the four pawns is as risky for white as it is for black   

Sith_Nazgul

Read my articles and you will understand why NEVER TO PLAY THE KING'S INDIAN in the first place. Smile

topj
Rookrager wrote:

Read my articles and you will understand why NEVER TO PLAY THE KING'S INDIAN in the first place.

The lines u offer have lots of holes like what if they replace d6 by o-o or what if they play e5 straight after they castle?

MasterOfNinjas

I used to be a KID player ages and ages and ages ago and it's never been too much of a problem, it was very aggressive though at times!

Sith_Nazgul
topj wrote:
Rookrager wrote:

Read my articles and you will understand why NEVER TO PLAY THE KING'S INDIAN in the first place.

The lines u offer have lots of holes like what if they replace d6 by o-o or what if they play e5 straight after they castle?

errrrrrrrrr... u'll realised that's all covered...


 

Sith_Nazgul

even if they aren't everything transposes. move order is not so important.

CHCL
Rookrager wrote:
topj wrote:
Rookrager wrote:

Read my articles and you will understand why NEVER TO PLAY THE KING'S INDIAN in the first place.

The lines u offer have lots of holes like what if they replace d6 by o-o or what if they play e5 straight after they castle?

errrrrrrrrr... u'll realised that's all covered...


 

The KID is fine for Black. I don't understand what you mean.

Sith_Nazgul

The Samisch kills.

MasterOfNinjas

Depends how you play against it, some players can hold off the Samisch very well.

Watch some Andrew Martin's vids on the KID he explains the Samisch well. 

topj

If you play the king's indian,you need to know quite abit of theory against different lines but against other lines you can make it up!Smile

MasterOfNinjas

There are a lot of KID players around and are not fazed by the Samisch. Yes, true there this a lot of theory around the KID but mostly if you follow the lines and muck up a bit you can make it up sometimes depending on your situation!!!

Archerknight

I play the four pawns attack - it's great. You need to know a ton of theory not to get crushed though... Especially in the Re8 lines. Here are the 2 main variations:

 

 

 

If black plays perfectly, he's getting an easy game. But if you know all the theory and he doesn't, you can get an easy game too.


topj

i don't like remember a TON of theory so i quit this line(as black) but i still play the KID

atarw
Rookrager wrote:

Read my articles and you will understand why NEVER TO PLAY THE KING'S INDIAN in the first place.

ARE YOU KIDDING?! IF THE KID IS BAD, WHY IS IT PLAYED BY ALL THE LEADING GRANDMASTERS. THE LINES YOU GAVE ARE TERRIBLE, ANYONE WHO KNOWS THEORY WILL POINT THAT OUT TO YOU: Re8? WHY NOT, NC6, E5 IS FINE, C5 IS FINE.

If you want, I'll send an unrated with KID. I'll be Black.

topj

I know, he thinks that everything he plays is superior or ''the best'' and @DaBigOne i agree with you the KID is played by many leading GM's and juniors

AnthonyCG

This position can also be reached against the Benoni and it's really tactical. Why play the KID if you don't like tactics?

10.e5 is probally ok in the first one but I don't understand 9...Bg4.

Black should play 9...Re8 attacking the e-pawn before doing anything else. Black needs to play it anyway so why not play it now? Then after 10.Nd2 Black has to figure something out but Bg4 doesn't really help with that.

CHCL

The 2 main moves are 9...Re8 and 9...Bg4.

AnthonyCG
CHCL wrote:

The 2 main moves are 9...Re8 and 9...Bg4.

Really? 9...Bg4 seemed slow to me.