Thats the Icelandic Gambit
Modern Scandinavian 3... c6?
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Jul 21, 2015
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#3
that's not the icelandic gambit. The icelandic gambit is 3...e6. And to the OP: what is your question exactly, you say you want to decline the offered pawn but then give a line where white takes the pawn. Furthermore any madman that plays 3 c4 knows that you don't take on c6 but that you should transpose to caro-kann panov.
Jul 21, 2015
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#4
Fiveofswords wrote:
you wont even see 3 c4 that often. if you do see it this probably means white is fine with the icelandic gambit and is also fine with a panov. Its what i play myself in fact. Somewhat unlikely that white will bite with 4 dc. It might actually be fine...but so is 3 d4. I really feel the odds are drastically in favor of 3. c4 meaning white is a panov player....because people dont care to get into deep study of independent lines of a rather offbeat opening.
I'd like to play it myself too for exactly those reasons. I simply used the terminology madman since most chess players do not like to hang on to the pawn with a move like c4.
This is for 3. d4.
I thought that out too.
4. c4 cxd5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 and White has quite a weak IQP.
Jul 22, 2015
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chesster3145 wrote:
I thought that out too.
4. c4 cxd5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 and White has quite a weak IQP.
This is truly genuine advice: maybe you should brush up your knowledge of pawnstructures before making claims that IQP position are better for the side that doesn't have the IQP...
ruben72d:
I never said that it is bad in general to have an IQP.
This particular one is okay after 6. Nc3 Qa5, but it is weak because it is blockaded, not because it is isolated.
Jul 22, 2015
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#10
ruben72d wrote:
chesster3145 wrote:
I thought that out too.
4. c4 cxd5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 and White has quite a weak IQP.
This is truly genuine advice: maybe you should brush up your knowledge of pawnstructures before making claims that IQP position are better for the side that doesn't have the IQP...
This is very true. White should develop his pieces, therefore, before isolating his pawn.
Jul 22, 2015
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#11
AKAL1 wrote:
what does that even mean?
ruben72d wrote:
chesster3145 wrote:
I thought that out too.
4. c4 cxd5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 and White has quite a weak IQP.
This is truly genuine advice: maybe you should brush up your knowledge of pawnstructures before making claims that IQP position are better for the side that doesn't have the IQP...
This is very true. White should develop his pieces, therefore, before isolating his pawn.
Is it not possible to decline the offer and play an improved Scandinavian Gambit instead? Here are some lines:
4. dxc6 Nxc6
(5. Nf3 Bg4 6. c3 Bxf3 7. Qxf3 e5)
(5. c3 e5 6. dxe5 Qxd1+ 7. Kxd1 Nxe5)