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Need new black repertoire / Experiences with QGA?

  • #1

    Hello all,

     

       For many years now I've been playing the Dutch as my response to d4, c4, and Nf3, and although I really love the Dutch and recommend it to anybody considering giving it a go, I think it's time for me to expand my game and learn some more traditional responses to these moves. I've been experimenting with various things in the database and through Daily matches (Grunfeld, QGD, Slav, etc) and just can't seem to find anything that feels right yet. In particular both the QGD and Slav seem to frequently result in a closed structure with pawns on d5, c6, and e6, which is not much to my tastes. The Nf6/Grunfeld ideas seem intriguing but I already spend a lot of time on my openings for white and responding to e4, and I have heard this is a very labor-intensive path to take.

     

    Which finally brings me to my actual question - how do players feel about the Queens Gambit Accepted? I honestly don't know much about it but it seems like it could be my cup of tea. How do d4 players feel when they face it? Why does it seem to be so much less popular than many other responses? I feel like the proper way to be answering these questions would be to look over many high-level games - which I have been attempting - but d4 positions in general are so out of the norm for me that I have a hard time assessing them (which is why I need to stop avoiding them!).

     

    Sorry if this was long and rambly; thanks for any insight you have to offer.

  • #2

    QGA: Classical defense: main line:

     

     

  • #3

    Also, if anybody knows which top players frequently utilize the QGA, or who the current "specialists" are, I would appreciate that info as well.

  • #4

    In general i am not overly happy to face the QGA - As a white player i do not get it against me too often while players of the black side can play it all the time. Second .. the body of theory you have to know as black is not that big. This leads to the fact that black players are often better prepared and better at home in the positions on the board and as a result get equality most of the time.

     

    Having said the above .. the main disadvantage to play the QGA is that white essentially gets the choice what to play: He can either play very concrete and active with 3. e4, something stronger players will often play against you ... Even if you know the theory perfectly well and equalize the remaining positions are strategically and tactically complex giving the stronger player an advantage. Or if he is weaker than you are he can pick the slower variations with e3 and dxc5 leading to rather symmetrical play without queens where it will be very hard to win. 

     

    The player i know how employs the QGA most often is Sergei Rublevsky there are many other GM's who play it now and then Svidler and Nakamura come to mind (they probably want to avoid getting plugged in the 3. e4 lines that are a pain in the ass if white players have studied them carefully)

     

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  • #6

    You could try declining it. Or maybe mixing QGD efforts with Dutch Stonewall depending on how your opponent goes.

  • #7

    I'm in a chess club, where almost everyone plays the Queens gambit. I tried to figure out, which answer is the best for me (please don't rely on my games here, they are played badly^^)

    After all, I came to the conclusion, that the nimzo-Indian  (1.... Nf6, 2.... e6, 3.... Bb4), gets the best quotes for me. Maybe it's because I'm a relatively creative player, who plays for a win in drawn positions

  • #8

    You'll probably need a bit more than just the Nimzo-Indian, since white can start playing junk like 1. d4 2. Nf3 3. Bf4  or 3. g3 to frustrate you.

    Or you could just really learn the QGD from the Black side and make them regret their lame efforts.

  • #9

    http://www.chess-stars.com/resources/QGA.pdf

     

    Above book is very good.   Not much learning needed if play the Bg4 line, or the a6 ones.   Not much to learn and because it fairly uncommon white not usually know much.

          Games I have lost with it have been my own fault, rather than the fault of the opening. 

  • #10

    Can you give an example of something that "doesn't feel right" in the opening? Are you sure it's not because you're just making a bunch of mistakes after the opening?

  • #11
    Khalayx wrote:

    Also, if anybody knows which top players frequently utilize the QGA, or who the current "specialists" are, I would appreciate that info as well.

    Shirov,Anand etc

  • #12

    Ofc the QGA is playble, but its a fact that white gets the easier position if he plays precisely. Look at it like that: accepting the gambit means you give up the center and you need to sharply counter attack it, I think e5 is usually a good reply. But why would anybody want to put himself in a situation where its hard to play a position, even if its sound? The classic QGD, Slav and Semi Slav are time tested defense that with a bit of study will guarantee you a perfectly playable position, so why bother accepting the gambit if it makes life for you even harder. The only way I could think of why somebody would play the QGA is purely to surprise the opponent. Remember that the Queens Gambit compared to the Kings Gambit has a completely different stratetic idea behind it. In the Kings Gambit its a common idea to hold on to the extra pawn, while in the QGA its best not to hold on to it and counter attack the big center right away. So again, why bother taking the pawn at all?

  • #13

    I had a very strong chess friend who played the QGA exclusively versus d4.  Along with the Grunfeld, it's the best option for getting pure piece-play against 1.d4.  There are certain general ideas you can follow and get a reasonable game: don't try to hang onto the pawn, don't grab extra material until caught up in development, always guard the d5-pawn break, etc.  Unfortunately, there's also a lot of subtlely with move orders, where an idea is sound in one line but inaccurate in a slightly different line.  When you consider the dynamic nature of many of these positions, a single mistake can snowball quickly against black.

    Also, be aware that you'll face many Colle and London set-ups instead of 2.c4, so you'll need a general idea on what to do against that as well.  This is why I don't play the QGA or any other 1...d5 opening, because I find the Black side of the London and Colle very dull with 1...d5 move order.  That might just be me, though.

  • #14

    Many lines of the QGA end up producing symmetrical pawn structures which can be rather draw-ish and difficult to win. Whether this is a plus or a minus is a matter of opinion and depends on how you like to play with the black pieces. 

  • #15

    @DrSpudnik Actually, I enjoy playing against the Catalan. As soon as you find a line you like, it's a lot of fun to play. Personally, I play the 4... Bb4+ 5. Bd2 Be7 line, which is fairly easy to handle as long as you know to activate the Bc8 by ... b6 and not to play ... c5 too early. The London System is a pain in the rear, but for a Nimzo player, lines with a fairly early ... Nh5 like 2. Nf3 e6 3. Bf4 b6 4. e3 Be7 5. Bd3 Nh5!? are a decent solution.

  • #16

    1.d4 b5.  No opening theory needed.  Your opponent will see b5 and start wrecklessly throwing his pawns up the board with no plan in mind and they become easy targets to pick off.  Well it works at the 1400 level anyway Laughing

    Seriously, I'm enjoying the tango lately

     3.Nf3 is the response you need to fear the most.  The video I watched advised a kind of nimzo-indian transposition with the c pawn blocked. It's very playable and I love seeing the other responses, which lead to positions I know from playing 1.e4 Nc6 as black (1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 e5 3.d5 Nce7 4.c4 Ng6 5.Nc3 Nf6 is the same position as 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Nc6 3.Nc3 e5 4.d5 Nce7 5.e4 Nf6)

  • #17

    I Love qga and is my main weapon. chechout my book, very good stuff. https://www.amazon.com/Whites-Queens-Accepted-Opening-Preparation-ebook/dp/B00EV7P5EY

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