Ponziani Opening

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ponz111 wrote:

Reb. then you might remember the anticipation of getting the mail each day with a new postcard or two with a move or two to consider?

Ofcourse I do but sometimes I might get 10 or so and that was a burden !  LOL  I sometimes had 50 or more games going at once . I was a member of USCF , CCLA , APCT , ICCF and was always playing in all of them ... 

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I was also playing 50 games at once and was a member of APCT and CCLA and later ICCF. It is a wonder that apparently we never played each other?

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I was in Alaska building a church and received postal cards before Alaska was a state... 

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ponz111 wrote:

I was in Alaska building a church and received postal cards before Alaska was a state... 

It is statements like this that make me regret any harsh words I have ever had for you Ponz.  The truth as I told you about a year ago is, you and your minitures are the reason I began playing chess again.  Whatever came between us, i am truly sorry for.

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Kant, it takes a whole lot of gumption to make an apology on a public forum so of course I accept that we both try and leave the bad feelings between us.

Thank you for your consideration.  I will send you a private message.

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The plot thickens.

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haha omg those ratings.

CC: 2424  OTB: 1505


CC: 2366  OTB: 1300



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CC is different from OTB tournament chess as bullet and blitz are different from OTB tournament chess. Though being good at bullet, blitz, or CC naturally correlate with skill at tournament chess, one's style may still shine better in some time formats better than others.

Judging by the data of course, CC (with computers) doesn't seem to correlate with tournament chess as much as bullet or blitz would. I'm sure there is tons of skill and dedication involved with using the computer best to your advantage; nonetheless, there are just certain skills useful in tournament chess that probably are just not tested nearly as much in CC.

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Maybe, some day I will give a picture of my 2nd winning bridge tournament where it was obvious I was a postal chess advocate!

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On the lighter side--here is a vote chess quote:  It is quite funny in my opinion.  Guess who said this:

"what a bunch of little sissies! Turning down a piece! I hope they didn't wet themselves over it."

[ if the person who made this statement does not want me to give out his/her name--I won't]

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Elubas wrote:

CC is different from OTB tournament chess as bullet and blitz are different from OTB tournament chess. Though being good at bullet, blitz, or CC naturally correlate with skill at tournament chess, one's style may still shine better in some time formats better than others.

Judging by the data of course, CC (with computers) doesn't seem to correlate with tournament chess as much as bullet or blitz would. I'm sure there is tons of skill and dedication involved with using the computer best to your advantage; nonetheless, there are just certain skills useful in tournament chess that probably are just not tested nearly as much in CC.

I think the biggest concern here is (as far as I understood) that in the US, engine use is not allowed for correspondence games.

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You were right Estragon! I did wet myself...

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Yes, it was Estragon!  Laughing

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Here is another rather funny quote in vote chess:  "I consider the Bishop retreat to be a minor victory and a sign we are playing idiots."

Who said this?

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By the way the above quote was said in a fun way and taken that way.

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Bolan_Yongshi wrote:
LoekBergman wrote:
BrianWall wrote:

I have personally refuted the Ponziani 3 years ago with the Fraser defense.

Main line:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6!! 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6
8. Qd5 Nf2 9. Rg1 O-O 10. cxb7 Bxb7 11. Qxb7 Qf6 12. Qa6 Rae8


plenty of analysis on BrianWallChess@Yahoogroups.com to prove my point.

Thanks for sharing your information. Unfortunately I could not get a connection to your url.

http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lab/7378/

Thank you, but that is Bill Wall, not Brian Wall. I have found three links though:

http://www.taom.com/pipermail/brianwall-chesslist/2010-March/003967.html

http://www.taom.com/pipermail/brianwall-chesslist/2012-September/008077.html

http://www.taom.com/pipermail/brianwall-chesslist/2012-September/008074.html

I am still curious what the refutation of the refutation of the main line of the Ponziani opening is. d3 reads to me that it is better to leave d4 all behind. That looks absurd to me, because d4 is the main line of the Ponziani.

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How about? - 6. Be3Innocent

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Past, where have you been??

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http://www.iccfus.com/ranks.htm

Rank Title Name Rating Change
1 GM Zilberberg, Alik Samulovich 2606 0
2 GM Fleetwood, Daniel M. 2592 8
3 GM Ham, Stephen E. 2586 0
4 GM Bokar, Dr. Jason 2582 -2
5 SIM Murray, Tim 2544 -4
6 SIM Holzmueller, Keith 2525 0
  GM Ostriker, Jon 2525 0
8 GM Duliba, Dr. Edward P. 2523 3
9 SIM Edwards, Jon 2503 0
10 SIM Siefring, Dr. Carl L. 2499 16
11 IM Menke, John R. sr. 2470 -2
12 SIM Perry, Dan 2465 1
13 IM Belka, Wieland 2464 0
  SIM Reinhart, Kenneth M. 2464 3
15 SIM Weisskohl, Jerry 2455 0
16 SIM Proof, Michael C. 2450 0
17 IM Green, Wesley C. 2447 0
18 SIM Knudsen, John C. 2439 0
19 SIM Millstone, Dr. Michael 2435 3
20 IM Sunna, Hisham N. 2431 0
21 IM Stengelin, Dr. Martin 2429 1
22 SIM Biedermann, Thomas 2427 -1
23   Kain, Anthony 2417 13
24   Diehl Jr., Thomas 2416 0
25   Johnson, Bobby 2411 1
    Kotlyanskiy, Edward 2411 0
27   Ingersol, Harry 2408 12
  SIM Myers, David R. 2408 0
29 IM Savage, Allan George 2405 0
30 IM Holroyd, Kenneth 2400 -2
31   Coplin, Lawrence 2399 -7
    Tseng, Wilbur 2399 -16
33   Goebert, Frank 2394 0
    Michael, Dennis 2394 -8
35 IM Boucher, William 2393 1
36 IM Jacobs, Robert Merton 2392 0
    Morrow, Wolff 2392 31
38 IM Ballow, John 2391 -4
39   Fass, Robert N. 2390 5
40   Walters, Gary 2382 -2
41   Douglas, Steve R. 2379 12
42   Dessaules, Peter 2378 -38
    Fuller, William E. 2378 11
44   Hill, Grayling V. 2374 0
45 IM Rizzo, Robert 2366 -13
46   Harvey, Donald J. 2360 10
47   Cruz, Humberto M. 2353 0
48 IM Musitani, Cesar 2349 1
49   Horwitz, Daniel M. 2348 -16
50   Cullen, Peter 2347 0
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