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RichmondY

Hey guys! Against d4, which is better learning nimzo/Queen's Indian or playing the KID against all closed position, which includes c4, d4?

gingerninja2003

i thiink the nimzo-indian is better than the kid but it's your choice. 

BronsteinPawn

Nimzo Indian, forget about Queens Indian, play d5 instead.

workhard91

it all depends on your preferences. Nimzo+QID ist more solid and offers better chances to equalize the game in general, whereas KID offers more unbalanced dynamic positions. In my opinion it is not recommendable to play just KID against any opening except of 1.e4 since you lose some flexibility by just playing always the same starting moves. Especially if you are a learning player who tries to improve his or her game you like to try new kind of positions. Both are good openings though, good luck with your choice! wink.png I hope this helps you.

ThrillerFan

I would actually recommend learning both.  Flexibility is key.  There are different things White can do, and you need to know what you are most comfortable with.

 

For example, I don't like committing to ...e6 against the London or Colle System.  I prefer fianchettoing my Bishop against such garbage as the London.  But like workhard91 said, playing the same moves like a robot against everything but e4 and you won't learn anything and your thought process will be one dimensional.  Players play something offbeat and you won't know what to do as you have been playing out of habit and not out of concentration.

 

I can tell you that I do the following against Non-e4.  Maybe this will help you:

 

1.d4 - I play the King's Indian (Primary) and Nimzo-Indian (Secondary) after 2.c4.  When playing the Nimzo, I answer 3.g3 (Catalan) or 3.Nf3 with 3...d5.  If he goes mainstream QGD, I play the Tartakower.  Catalan, I like the 4...dxc4, 5...Bb4+, 6...a5 line.  If White plays 2.Nf3, it's always 2...g6 for me.

 

1.c4 - I play 1...b6 (primary) and 1...Nf6 (secondary).  If after 1...b6 he plays the immediate 2.d4, I play 2...e6 and go into the English Defense.  I'll answer an early a3 with ...c5, and otherwise go main stream English Defense.  If he plays 2.Nc3, then I'll play into the lines of the Hedgehog, and 95% of the time, directly transposes to the Hedgehog main lines with either the early e4 or else d4 followed by the trade, recapturing with the Queen.

 

1.Nf3 I play 1...Nf6 with 2.c4 or 2.d4 followed by 2...g6 or 2.g3 followed by 2...d5.

 

Diverse enough to get positions that will force one to think and not play like a robot because you have the exact same position every time, but compact enough that you aren't all over the place with stuff that you need to understand and/or memorize.

 

Part of it is knowing specifically what you are looking to avoid and what you are willing to deal with.  I don't want to face things like the London with an early ...e6, so I only play ...e6 if c4 has been played already, for example.