quick shutdown to Caro-Kann advance? (for black)

drmrboss

There are reasons, why I am impressed with Engines's stretegy. In this game, it is a very common London system wherease the game normally ended as draw or Queen side play. However in this game Leela played King side attack starting with 13. h4!! 

Her strategy was successful cos there is a blockadage of Queen side bishop with her own pawn in e6 that shut down whole queen side of black player. 

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At position 38. It is seemingly opposite color bishop ending with draw. However, everything is locked with Zugwang for black. 

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ilikewindmills
These massive engine lines confuse me. Anyway, I read everything and here's what I have to say:

e6 isn't great. I'd be better off just learning the French, which could definitely be a good idea, but maybe not now.

I'm going to keep trying c5, just looking at all these big lines. They leave me in a bit of a strange position, but I'm okay with that. White seems to have struggles as well, so it's not so bad.

I'm surprised there's been little mention of an f6 push, and I'd like a bit of information into when I'm supposed to do that (if I even am, I just assume it's right eventually).

I like these discussions and I hope they continue for some time.
froslap

ilikewindmills wrote:

These massive engine lines confuse me. Anyway, I read everything and here's what I have to say:

e6 isn't great. I'd be better off just learning the French, which could definitely be a good idea, but maybe not now.

I'm going to keep trying c5, just looking at all these big lines. They leave me in a bit of a strange position, but I'm okay with that. White seems to have struggles as well, so it's not so bad.

I'm surprised there's been little mention of an f6 push, and I'd like a bit of information into when I'm supposed to do that (if I even am, I just assume it's right eventually).

I like these discussions and I hope they continue for some time.

Sounds like a plan. But, one thing to consider, which I stated earlier and these ridiculous engline lines don't tell you, is that ...Bf5 gives you a French structure without a bad bishop. If you play ...c5, your Bishop will be locked in, like the French, but a tempo down. Instead of trying to dissect these engine evaluations, buy the Tal-Botvinnik 1960 book or Jovanka Houska's book on the Caro Kann. I bet you'll learn more from those two books than turning on your engine on move three. As you said in this quote: "and I'd like a bit of information into when I'm supposed to do that (if I even am, I just assume it's right eventually)."