Scandinavian: How to Beat

HorribleTomato
ThrillerFan wrote:
Hadron wrote:

Unknown? I found 988 games

The point of Qxd5 - Qa5 - Qd8 is what? Both 8...Qc7 & 8...Qb6 would seem to make more sense, actively getting on to the dark sqaures

 

As one that played the Scandinavian off and on about 10 years ago, the point of 8...Qd8 is to recapture on f6.

 

The OP's 9th move is inferior.  He should take on f6, after which Black must make a critical decision.  Take on f6 with the Queen, which the Queen often finds itself severely misplaced, or take on f6 with the pawn, despite the Qd8 move, and this is now-a-days considered the main line.  Chasing the Bishop is not good for White.  It's Black's bad bishop to begin with.  If White can force Black to play a move like ...f5 at a point where there is no tactical motivation behind it, Black's position ends up being horrible!  Sometimes, the move ...f5 has a tactical idea behind it, but normally, Black would prefer to try to be able to get in ...Be4 and ...Bd5 before playing ...f5 for light-square domination.

 

If White can force the Black Bishop to remain on g6 and coerce ...f5 out of Black, and keep an eye on h5 and not let that Bishop out, it ends up being more of a tall pawn and Black is "virtually" down a piece.

 

White then goes for the attack where he has then a local piece superiority, which would be the Queenside, regardless of which side Black castled on or if he castled at all.

 

Ever since 8.Ne4 became the main line rather than the older main line, 8.Qe2 and 9.O-O-O, I have never been a fan of the Scandinavian Defense!  In the old main line, Black was actually holding up really well.  The discovery that 8.Ne4 is better for White than 8.Qe2 has all but killed the viability of the Scandinavian Defense.

Nd5 guards b6 and c7 and therefore black wants to take. Ne4 simply is going to g3.

poucin
HorribleTomato a écrit :
poucin wrote:

the main line is 8.Nd5 since many years, not Ne4.

Nd5 is advocated in numerous books, the only one i know covering it is Emms's "attacking with e4".

Refute it then.

Did I insinuate that Ne4 was bad?

It is not me who decided what is the main line for white (Nd5).

Nd5 being the main line doesnt mean it is the best way to play, Ne4 is a respectable line and is quite fine.

HorribleTomato
poucin wrote:
HorribleTomato a écrit :
poucin wrote:

the main line is 8.Nd5 since many years, not Ne4.

Nd5 is advocated in numerous books, the only one i know covering it is Emms's "attacking with e4".

Refute it then.

Did I insinuate that Ne4 was bad?

It is not me who decided what is the main line for white (Nd5).

Nd5 being the main line doesnt mean it is the best way to play, Ne4 is a respectable line and is quite fine.

Sorry.

rychessmaster1
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
HorribleTomato wrote:

Ummm... ok.

So let's take a look at YOUR rating, shall we?

1000 on blitz,

1350 on rapid.

HAVE FUN.

 

I've just started working on the game seriously. At any rate, even if I wind up being a terrible chess player (I won't, obviously) at least I'm not Chineeeeeeeese. Nothing you can do about that one, Charlie Oneballhanglo.

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DetectiveRams
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
HorribleTomato wrote:

Ummm... ok.

So let's take a look at YOUR rating, shall we?

1000 on blitz,

1350 on rapid.

HAVE FUN.

 

I've just started working on the game seriously. At any rate, even if I wind up being a terrible chess player (I won't, obviously) at least I'm not Chineeeeeeeese. Nothing you can do about that one, Charlie Oneballhanglo.

You are a racist *Insert word here*. I'm guessing you are an old white male, possibly in his mid 80s.

DetectiveRams
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
TitanChess666 wrote:
Alright mr.coffeeand420, I am Chinese as well. Maybe you'll notice that about a quarter of the world's elite are Chinese.
Also, if you don't believe horrible tomato, look up his name on the uscf website to view his rating.

 

Dude, please. A quarter of the world's elite? Elite at what? You can't even get a date with a woman. It's not cool to be Chinese and it never will be. Get over it.

How do you know he can't get a date with a woman? In fact, how do we know you can? You are just some lonely, racist jerk who takes pleasure in trying to bring down people to the same level you are.

As to your second point. Did you know it's not cool to be a racist jerk. That's the fastest way to get a shit ton of hate. I know a bunch of Chinese people and their great guys. Get over it.

SuperSam1

Another amazing post by Mr. Coffee and Weed.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/non-americans-and-constant-disconnect-reconnect

DetectiveRams

 Lol! I just read the post. That is the funniest thing I have seen on chess.com. Really, being an American has given him an over inflated ego. It gives people a bad image of all the US citizens out there, even the good ones. The snobbish attitude and racist remarks, combined with the fact that Trump is their president, just makes most of them a laughing stock for the rest of the world. I'm sorry to the few decent ones out there, including you @SuperSam1.

DetectiveRams

  @CoffeeAnd420 it is people like you who stop the world from progressing.

HorribleTomato
DetectiveRams wrote:
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
TitanChess666 wrote:
Alright mr.coffeeand420, I am Chinese as well. Maybe you'll notice that about a quarter of the world's elite are Chinese.
Also, if you don't believe horrible tomato, look up his name on the uscf website to view his rating.

 

Dude, please. A quarter of the world's elite? Elite at what? You can't even get a date with a woman. It's not cool to be Chinese and it never will be. Get over it.

How do you know he can't get a date with a woman? In fact, how do we know you can? You are just some lonely, racist jerk who takes pleasure in trying to bring down people to the same level you are.

As to your second point. Did you know it's not cool to be a racist jerk. That's the fastest way to get a shit ton of hate. I know a bunch of Chinese people and their great guys. Get over it.

Thank you!

HorribleTomato
DetectiveRams wrote:

 Lol! I just read the post. That is the funniest thing I have seen on chess.com. Really, being an American has given him an over inflated ego. It gives people a bad image of all the US citizens out there, even the good ones. The snobbish attitude and racist remarks, combined with the fact that Trump is their president, just makes most of them a laughing stock for the rest of the world. I'm sorry to the few decent ones out there, including you @SuperSam1.

I'm partially American, BTW.

HorribleTomato
rychessmaster1 wrote:
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
HorribleTomato wrote:

Ummm... ok.

So let's take a look at YOUR rating, shall we?

1000 on blitz,

1350 on rapid.

HAVE FUN.

 

I've just started working on the game seriously. At any rate, even if I wind up being a terrible chess player (I won't, obviously) at least I'm not Chineeeeeeeese. Nothing you can do about that one, Charlie Oneballhanglo.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don't even know why I'm laughing.

You shouldn't be, Ryan Oneballhanghigh.

SuperSam1

Most Americans are nice people, just like I'm sure most North Koreans are nice people. It's only the few horrible people who get lots of media attention, because they are horrible, that makes it seem like all of America is a racist mess.

HorribleTomato
SuperSam1 wrote:

Most Americans are nice people, just like I'm sure most North Koreans are nice people. It's only the few horrible people who get lots of media attention, because they are horrible, that makes it seem like all of America is a racist mess.

How come a thread on the Scandinavian became politics??? 

SuperSam1

I am not naming any people or groups, so no politics here.

HorribleTomato

Eh, something like that.

poucin

well, u began with naming Scandinavian!

rychessmaster1
I thought it was funny, I didn’t say that that’s what you should be called(even though you bombed my friend
NezhmetdinovsGhost

Watch this video and you can always beat the Scandinavian Defense:

woodenchessboard

 Ah, now i understood why coffeeandpoop has a profile picture of Donald trump...