Sicilian Defense

Whenever I play Black, I usually play either Sicilian defense (accelerated Dragon) or Dutch opening (for D4). However, I have noticed that I keep on playing people countering Sicilian defense lately. So, my question is: how does one counter a counter to Sicilian defense?

Thanks!

Accelerated Dragon (how I usually play it):

dont play d6 in the accerlated dragon, some of the point of the accerlated dragon is to delay d6 and play d5 in one move instead

This (#1) is not an Accelerated Dragon.

And of course white's ninth move is hilarious- why move the bishop a second time to go to c4 when you could have it there in one go?

Post #3 is a mix of two lines and not good for Black.

If you are going to play the Dragon via 2...d6, then you want to play 4...Nf6 before playing ...g6

If you are going to play the Accelerated Dragon, then you don't play 2...d6, you play 2...Nc6, and after 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6, White has the option to play 5.c4, as I think post number 3 was trying to imply, or he can play 5.Nc3 as indicated in the OP.  White has a few other options, but they are rare.

Why so? After 5...Nf6 6.Nc3 Nc6 we have a typical Maroczy Gurgenidze, which is regarded as the best way to counter the Maroczy Bind.

Yes, that position you give is a direct transposition to 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.c4 Nf6 6.Nc3 d6.

However, why give White extra options?  Doing it via 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.c4 gives White extra options, like waiting on Nc3 and instead playing 6.f3 or 6.Bd3, and also the option of 4.Qxd4.

Not saying that the line in post 3 is outright busted, but why give White extra options if your goal is to play the Accelerated Dragon anyway?

I think International Master Pfren knows the move orders of the Sicilian Dragon and Accelerated Dragon.

He was merely pointing out the flaw in your statement. Which is completely wrong. Which is the comment below.

Post #3 is a mix of two lines and not good for Black.

If you would have said the mix of the 2 move orders is not that great. You would have more justification.

However, you said the mix of the two lines is not good for Black. Which is incorrect. Usually black response like that in the Accelerated Dragon move order.

@OP

The Sicilian Dragon mainline move order goes as following.

The Accelerated Dragon:

Thank you captain obvious - like a person rated higher than yourself doesn't know the blasted difference between the Dragon and Accelerated Dragon and how one allows the Maroczy Bind and the other doesn't.  And actually, 4...Nf6 in the first line doesn't prevent the Maroczy Bind.  White can play the Prins variation (5.f3) that usually leads right into what?  Oh, that's right, a Maroczy Bind!

Clearly I'm going to know the purpose and point behind 4...Nf6 in the 2...d6 lines.  I play it myself!  Only difference is I don't play 5...g6, I play 5...a6, and I'm purposely not saying the name of the opening so that the opportunity for you to play the role of Captain Obvious will be served to you again on a silver platter!

And incase some people want to know why black doesn't play 4...Nf6 than try to go into the fianchetteo it is becuase of a nice combo white has.

In response to the text in Red:

Exactly why are you an untitled player showing International Master Pfren the move orders of those lines. Do you think he forgot them?

In response to the text in Green:

I'm not even going to take that comment serious. Thats why you are not titled.

Playing the Prins Variation (5.f3) does not mean white will go for a Maroczy Bind either. If black responses with 5...g6.

Why on earth would white want to play 6.c4 with the chance of the position tranposing into the Sicilian Defense/Accelerated Dragon/Maroczy Bind.

I would rather play 6.Nc3 turning the position into the Sicilian Dragon/Yugoslav Attack

So again your claim is dubious and wrong.

In response to the text in Orange:

Obviously you don't know the point of 4...Nf6 otherwise you would of not said that statement which IM Pfren pointed out.

As for your response of 5...a6. I'm sure the reason you are not mentioning the name of that line is becuase an untitled player like you doesn't know its name. You are only playing 5...a6 because your engine says its the best move.

However, do not worry I will give you a name to go with your engines favorite move. It is called the Sicilian, Najdorf

I cannot see how Black can play the acc. Dragon at all if white plays 5.Nc3. He can only enter a normal Dragon (already committed himself to ...d6).

But I agree that this move order does not make sense: If you want to play the Dragon, why allow white the extra option to enter the Maroczy?

That said, there is no REAL flaw in Black's move order.