x
Chess - Play & Learn

Chess.com

FREE - In Google Play

FREE - in Win Phone Store

VIEW

Some funny rare lines favoured by Stockfish

  • #41
    CheesyPuns wrote:

    by one of the best you mean 9th?!love your posts though

     

    Yeah, well, I used Stockfish on lichess. Even in your diagram, moves #5-10 have close evaluations +0.04/-0.01. Actually, I like this, possibly malfunctioning, Stockfish on lichess. It gives some unorthodox ideas. wink.png

  • #42
    Yigor wrote:
    CheesyPuns wrote:

    by one of the best you mean 9th?!love your posts though

     

    Yeah, well, I used Stockfish on lichess. Even in your diagram, moves #5-10 have close evaluations +0.04/-0.01. Actually, I like this, possibly malfunctioning, Stockfish on lichess. It gives some unorthodox ideas.

    Unorthodox is good.

    The bad is when you baptise "unorthodox" everything that is "wrong" just because you are unable to understand the difference.

    Before you decide what is unorthodox , first try to understand what is "orthodox".

  • #43
    DeirdreSkye wrote:

    Unorthodox is good.

    The bad is when you baptise "unorthodox" everything that is "wrong" just because you are unable to understand the difference.

    Before you decide what is unorthodox , first try to understand what is "orthodox".

     

    Pedantic and pretentious post. Are U a certified teacher of orthodox openings ?!?

  • #44
    Yigor wrote:
    DeirdreSkye wrote:

    Unorthodox is good.

    The bad is when you baptise "unorthodox" everything that is "wrong" just because you are unable to understand the difference.

    Before you decide what is unorthodox , first try to understand what is "orthodox".

     

    Pedantic and pretentious post. Are U a certified teacher of orthodox openings ?!?

        No I am not.But you are certainly a certified ignorant.

        Let me remind you that in one of your last posts you said that the bishop is good on e2 in move 2(1.e4 e5 2.Be2) because the black bishop is good on e7 in Closed Spanish and despite saying first that the bishop at e2 prevents the pin of Nf3.

         You also considered good 1.e4 e5 2.h3 and 1.d4 d5 2.h3 and it needed detailed and continous tries from the members to convince you that it's not.You couldn't tell by your own.

          With chess education and understanding less than zero(if that is even possible) how do you expect to tell if something is unorthodox or not?

         

         

  • #45
    DeirdreSkye wrote:

    With chess education and understanding less than zero (if that is even possible) how do you expect to tell if something is unorthodox or not?

     

    Omg I'm such an antihero with my chess knowledge taking strictly negative values. blitz.pnggrin.pngtongue.png

  • #46

    I think 1.d4. Nf6. 2.h3 is primarily to prevent all the early opening variations that pin whites knight at Nf3 with Bg4. Then white can relax about that problem, and immediately formulate plans in the centre and beyond.

  • #47
    Yigor wrote:

    Funky news for engine haters. It might prove that Stockfish doesn't understand chess openings. [Or, alternatively, that the orthodox understanding is biased ]. Just looking at 5 best lines in Indian, Sicilian, KPG and QPG (Stockfish 8 on lichess) we get the following unorthodox openings:

     

    • 1. d4 Nf6 2. h3 (+0.1)
    • 1. e4 c5 2. d3 (+0.1)
    • 1. e4 e5 2. h3 (+0.0)
    • 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 (+0.0)
    • 1. d4 d5 2. h3 (+0.1)>>>>>

    Not sure what your point is. All this is pretty reasonable, although the {1. e4 c5 2. d3 (+0.1)} is, in any case, a Closed Sicilian.

  • #48
    SylentSwords wrote:

    I think 1.d4. Nf6. 2.h3 is primarily to prevent all the early opening variations that pin whites knight at Nf3 with Bg4. Then white can relax about that problem, and immediately formulate plans in the centre and beyond.

     

    Yes, 2. h3 prevents Bg4 and also reserves the retreat square h2 for white DSB. Clear double utility! grin.png

  • #49
    Optimissed wrote:

    Not sure what your point is.

     

    The famous mathematician David Hilbert said that "when the horizon of your consciousness shrinks to a single point, you obtain a so-called point of view". tongue.pngwink.png

  • #50
    Yigor wrote:
    SylentSwords wrote:

    I think 1.d4. Nf6. 2.h3 is primarily to prevent all the early opening variations that pin whites knight at Nf3 with Bg4. Then white can relax about that problem, and immediately formulate plans in the centre and beyond.

     

    Yes, 2. h3 prevents Bg4 and also reserves the retreat square h2 for white DSB. Clear double utility!

    I agree. I see it as the engine being extremely forward planning. (Unnecessarily so).

    I’ve seen a few early h3’s In many of Fischer’s games against Sicilian, (even though it’s a 1.e4 opening and not the d4 line we were discussing)

    Blacks Bg4 pin on Nf6 can be an ongoing and sometimes unsolvable problem. White is giving no opportunity for this to happen.

  • #51

    So useful to prevent Bg4 when black is not able to play it...

    Try again!

    X : "what's the big idea of 1.g3?"

    Y : " it prevents Qh4 so no scholar mate, so afraid of it u know!"

  • #52
    Yigor wrote:
    Optimissed wrote:

    Not sure what your point is.

     

    The famous mathematician David Hilbert said that "when the horizon of your consciousness shrinks to a single point, you obtain a so-called point of view">>

    He was too spaced out, however.

     

  • #53

    Mind you, he knew his place. He stuck to his Hilbert space.

  • #54
    ItWillHappen a écrit :

    What is wrong with you DeirdreSkye? Why are you so agressive? Yigor was just posting what he discovered and you immediately jumped into insulting him. sigh

    Sorry but if u read all what Yigor says here and everywhere on this forum, u should know/discover that :

    - he is indeed ignorant about chess : he tries to be clever or useful giving line by engine, using statistics and strange tools that he is the only one to preech and understand.

    - While deirdre and other tries to give advice with what they know, sharing ideas, plans, games, etc... All the contrary.

    - So 2 sides : some trying to teach, and Yigor telling things which are often wrong.

    - Yigor continue his way and doesn't care what other think : u can't discuss with him.

    - U will see that Yigor is just spoiling this forum, that's why deirdre and often me are agressive with him.

  • #55

    Yigor says a lot of things on these forums. All of them are absolute nonsense; similar to this thread. Occasionaly, someone asks something that everyone starts to argue about. Everyone tells the OP,"This is a stupid thread!" Some people can't get over it and admit that they were wrong. Look at the thread about being an expert to play the Sicilian. It has about 700 posts [I think, last time I checked was a month ago.] that were written in less than a week. Most of the posts were off topic and everyone got mad at "someone".

  • #56

    I thought you were talking about some actual lines like 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 e6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 Bb4 6 Qg4

  • #57

    are u sure black is winning?

     

  • #58
    poucin έγραψε:

    are u sure black is winning?

     

    Who knows...

    We'd better ask Yigor. I can bet he will answer this one properly!

  • #59

    Thx Yigor, these lines doesn't seem that bad. It's nice to have some variety.

Top

Online Now