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Openings and variations of openings that lose or gain a tempo other than the obvious Scandinavian Defense?
Watch some of GM Seirawan's STLCC Lectures on youtube. He has several games lectures/opening lectures, where he shows a side being down several tempo and the game goes just fine.
initiative more critical than tempi
I never implied that it was bad to waste tempo I just wanted to know of some openings where this happens
The Scandinavian doesn't (out of the first 4 moves) lose tempo. After the black queen retreats both sides have one piece developed with white to move. However the black queen can potentially be kicked around if you're careless.
well the center counter doesnt really waste tempo - it sacs it
Blackburne's Shilling Gambit leaps to mind.
Dory Defence (1.d4/Nf6 2.Nf3/Ne4)
Center Game (1.e4/e5 2.d4/exd4 3.Qxd4/Nc6)
Blackburne's Shilling Gambit (1.e4/e5 2.Nf3/Nc6 3.Bc4/Nd4)
Ruy Lopez Birds Defense (1.e4/e5 2.Nf3/Nc6 3.Bb5/Nd4)
Scandinavian Defense (1.e4/d5 2.exd5/Qxd5 3.Nc3)
Alkhine Defense Brooklyn Variation (1.e4/Nf6 2.e5/Ng8)
Anything else ...
Scandinavian sacrifices tempo to knock the pawn on e4 out of the center... And it's pretty good. It's been played in a WC game. You don't see the Blackburne-Shilling Gambit tossed out by Anand.
Good point, Seirawan seems to have no fear of losing a tempo in the opening if he can gain an advantage later but he stresses in 1 of his lectures that you can only do it in a Closed game, if the center is open you can't get away with it.
This is a great example, the French defence played with total disregard to developement & loss of Tempo
Does the stutter step of the pawn in the Petroff count?
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nf6 3 Nxe5 d6 4 Nf3 Nxe4 5 d4 d5
How about the bishop retreat in the Rossolimo?
1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 e6 4 0-0 Nge7 5 Re1 a6 6 Bf1
How about this Sveshnikov variation?
1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 e5 6 Ndb5 d6 7 Nd5 Nxd5 8 exd5 Nb8
And this Symmetrical English line?
1 c4 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nc3 Nd4
which can actually be met with 4 e3 or 4 Ng1
Correct, and amazing how many people can't work this out. The queen moving twice is countered by the e pawn moving twice.
It does however lose tempo further down the main line.
Breyer Ruy Lopez?
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 b5 6.Bf1- Ulvestad
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