Traxler: Don't even think of playing Ke2!!!

If White plays KF1, he has drawing chances you showed me in the other thread on this. KxF2 is suicide

So, it's rather sad that after two long threads you are still claiming nonsense.

The following "game" has been played a lot of times after 6.Kxf2 by various opponents, and leaves no room for Black improvements.

Thats weird. Wow, thechesswebsite videos really suck. He went over all Kf2 lines and said they were losing. How stupid.

And hes a master

Thats a rather short analysis. What about later on? After b6, bb7..etc. black can definitely force a draw, so its a good opening

I did not post any analysis.

The Traxler has problems in two lines: 5.Bxf7+ Ke7 6.Bc4!? (Bb3 and Bd5 are more common, but I like the less analysed move above) and 5.d4! which leaves Black playing a pawn down as the lesser evil.

5.Nxf7? is no more than a draw, against optimal play by Black.

This is a funny thread. The debate here is over an opening that already has a big error in it and people are arguing with pfrens analysis, despite knowing nowhere near as much about this as pfren. Face it, your opening isn’t winning every time

95% of the time.

Hey, bro, the Traxler is back on track ?!? 

Yep, the opening definitely should be studied more. I mean d5 works fine also but it still is a very powerful variation.

Traxler is almost busted by 5.d4.

Sure few people will play and know it, u can continue to play poker after all,

Bxf7 is theoretically worst

Poker is a fun gambling game, lol.

Busted?

 And it's pretty much forced againt d5

Well, the reference game could be this one :

Maybe black could defend better but really unpleasant.

U propose a novelty with 10...Nd4, and your whole line is proposed by Stockfish but still easy for white.

In your variation, after the obvious 13.c3, black has some compensations for the pawn but is it enough?

If it is the best variation black has after 5.d4, we can evaluate Traxler as dubious.

Well, not stockfish but main line till move 9 then I just feel that is unpleasant to have the 2 knight there un front of a pawn. I don't care if stockfish prefers f6, with 10.Nd4 you chain the king to the c2 pawn.

White is a bit better, but the Traxler is not busted with d4 as you are not allowing black to make mistakes on the d4 d5 line, it's pretty much forced. Nxf7 is completely wining if played properly.

Indeed, it seems to me that White has no great compensation for the pawn he has won...

 And 5.Nxf7?? in reality deserves just one question mark, since it simply allows Black to get away with a more or less forced draw. The second question mark is because white is stupid enough to repeat a mistake which has been played countless times.

I like how we have a non master chess player who thinks he is good enough to argue the strength of a chess position with two IMs

I like how dumb you are. Is this thread for titled players only?

Certainly not.

Now, please show us your wisdom: how white is winning after 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+?

For me, even something close to a small advantage for white would be OK.