What is the second best opening for d4 players ??

TonyZeon

From this I want a new opening to play as white

Please can anyone help me

Just say your recommended lines

TonyZeon

I don`t want e4 lines

 

my137thaccount
TonyZeon wrote:

I don`t want e4 lines

 

London System

kennedyryderparis

What is your opening move? 1. d4? Or do you want something completely different?

varelse1

1.Nf3 is a good trans-positional device, into 1.d4 or 1.c4 openings.

TonyZeon
kennedyryderparis wrote:

What is your opening move? 1. d4? Or do you want something completely different?

I want completely different , which is good for white

TonyZeon
varelse1 wrote:

1.Nf3 is a good trans-positional device, into 1.d4 or 1.c4 openings.

Ok can your post the lines and variation

Scottrf
TonyZeon wrote:
varelse1 wrote:

1.Nf3 is a good trans-positional device, into 1.d4 or 1.c4 openings.

Ok can your post the lines and variation

You would need a library of books.

TheEinari

Why do you want the second best and not THE best?

gingerninja2003

if you don't like the queens gambit but you are insistent on playing d4 (for some reason) then the london system is a good alternative.

an interesting theme in the London is

 

ThrillerFan

The OP is totally clueless!  In one breath, he says he wants something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than 1.d4.  1.Nf3 and 1.c4 are NOT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, and the same ideas apply to all 3.

 

Then, in the next breath, he demands no e4 lines, but if you want something completely different than 1.d4, you've got 2 choices, 1.e4, or utter crap!  I do play 1.b4 occasionally myself, but even I know that despite playing it occasionally, it's utter crap!

 

But yet he calls for good for White!  MAKE UP YOUR MIND!  There is no non-e4 completely different idea from d4 that is good for White!  Period!  End of Story!

 

You've got 3 choices:

1. Play openings similar to 1.d4 (i.e. 1.c4 or 1.Nf3)

2. Play 1.e4

3. Play openings that are no good for White!

FrogCDE

He could play 1.b3. That's a decent opening at club level, and different from the rest. Or 1.f4, come to think of it.

Aadhith0

 

Scottrf
ThrillerFan wrote:

The OP is totally clueless!  In one breath, he says he wants something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than 1.d4.  1.Nf3 and 1.c4 are NOT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, and the same ideas apply to all 3.

 

Then, in the next breath, he demands no e4 lines, but if you want something completely different than 1.d4, you've got 2 choices, 1.e4, or utter crap!  I do play 1.b4 occasionally myself, but even I know that despite playing it occasionally, it's utter crap!

 

But yet he calls for good for White!  MAKE UP YOUR MIND!  There is no non-e4 completely different idea from d4 that is good for White!  Period!  End of Story!

 

You've got 3 choices:

1. Play openings similar to 1.d4 (i.e. 1.c4 or 1.Nf3)

2. Play 1.e4

3. Play openings that are no good for White!

 

What a charming personality you have. Were you abused as a child?

Semiahmoo
With 1.d4, you can try the slow but solid London or Colle systems. But 2.c4 is by far the most common and the best shot at maintaining the tempo advantage.
ThrillerFan
Scottrf wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

The OP is totally clueless!  In one breath, he says he wants something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than 1.d4.  1.Nf3 and 1.c4 are NOT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, and the same ideas apply to all 3.

 

Then, in the next breath, he demands no e4 lines, but if you want something completely different than 1.d4, you've got 2 choices, 1.e4, or utter crap!  I do play 1.b4 occasionally myself, but even I know that despite playing it occasionally, it's utter crap!

 

But yet he calls for good for White!  MAKE UP YOUR MIND!  There is no non-e4 completely different idea from d4 that is good for White!  Period!  End of Story!

 

You've got 3 choices:

1. Play openings similar to 1.d4 (i.e. 1.c4 or 1.Nf3)

2. Play 1.e4

3. Play openings that are no good for White!

 

What a charming personality you have. Were you abused as a child?

 

No, I am simply one that believes no nonsense means something different than the pantyhose.  Sometimes the truth hurts.  Still gotta tell it as it is!