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Why doesn't everyone play 1.Nf3?

  • #41
    tob1a5 wrote:
    dimis283 wrote:

    1.Nf3  usually turns to many openings,saying the English,d4 openings,KIA etc,so I do not thing that it is the  best move (what is to point for example to play the KID starting with 1.Nf3 of 1.c4?),maybe it is a flexible move, with that a player can see what formation the opponent  will use and chose his opening.  
    Anyway many players choose 1.Nf3.

     

    I agree, KIA is actually better via the 1.e4 move order according to stats. 1.Nf3 is a flexible move if you're looking for mainline English positions, Queens pawn opening or Catalan (perhaps Nimzo Larsen as well). 

         KIA is not actually better via the 1.e4 move order because Black has several ways to avoid it or completely neutralise it.

          What will you play against Scandinavian?Or against 1...e5?Or against Pirc?Or against Alekhine's defense?

    KIA is either impossible or absolutely harmless against all these 4.

       So stats , although a valuable tool , can't help you if you don't fully understand what you are doing.

  • #42

    1.Nf3: it's a flexible move and a good one. It has only slight drawbacks. After 1... c5 you can play 2.c4 (symmetrical English), but 2.d4 isn't very strong, so you cannot force a Queens Gambit. Of course: if you are comfortable playing English, then it is perfectly ok.


    1.c4 e5! is not possible after 1.Nf3, so you avoid playing the asymmetrical English.
    Which is a plus for 1.Nf3.


    Kings Indian: it is possible to reach the mainline, but some players like the f3-line (Sämisch). As i said: the drawbacks are only minor ones.

  • #43
    So if Nf3 isn't the best what is?
  • #44

    TINSTAABO
    "There is no such thing as a 'best opening.' Each player should choose an opening that attracts him. Some players are looking for a gambit as White, others for Black gambits. Many players that are starting out (or have bad memories) want to avoid mainstream systems, others want dynamic openings, and others want calm positional pathways. It’s all about personal taste and personal need.
    For example, if you feel you’re poor at tactics you can choose a quiet positional opening (trying to hide from your weakness and just play chess), or seek more dynamic openings that engender lots of tactics and sacrifices (this might lead to more losses but, over time, will improve your tactical skills and make you stronger)." - IM Jeremy Silman (January 28, 2016)
    https://www.chess.com/article/view/opening-questions-and-a-dream-mate

  • #45
    DeirdreSkye wrote:
    tob1a5 wrote:
    dimis283 wrote:

    1.Nf3  usually turns to many openings,saying the English,d4 openings,KIA etc,so I do not thing that it is the  best move (what is to point for example to play the KID starting with 1.Nf3 of 1.c4?),maybe it is a flexible move, with that a player can see what formation the opponent  will use and chose his opening.  
    Anyway many players choose 1.Nf3.

     

    I agree, KIA is actually better via the 1.e4 move order according to stats. 1.Nf3 is a flexible move if you're looking for mainline English positions, Queens pawn opening or Catalan (perhaps Nimzo Larsen as well). 

         KIA is not actually better via the 1.e4 move order because Black has several ways to avoid it or completely neutralise it.

          What will you play against Scandinavian?Or against 1...e5?Or against Pirc?Or against Alekhine's defense?

    KIA is either impossible or absolutely harmless against all these 4.

       So stats , although a valuable tool , can't help you if you don't fully understand what you are doing.

    Scandinavian and 1...e5, indeed White will need to play something else but against Alekhine and and Pirc White can still play a KIA. It can be played against most of Black's defences succesfully for that matter. The reason why 1.e4 is considered a better way to play the KIA is because it avoids 1...e5 lines which is a huge weight off Black's shoulders in terms of theory. 

  • #46

    While we're on the subject of unconventionalism, why doesn't everyone play 1. h4? It's a very flexible move, and white need not worry about the center immediately. If black takes over the center, white can simply challenge at some point. h4 opens up the kingside, but there's usually no issue with castling queenside. All that's needed normally is fearlessness and a little bit of intuition.

  • #47

    @BeepBeepImA747 I play 1.e4 but objectively 1.Nh3 ties with 1.Na3.

  • #48

    The OP is so much stronger than me, I believe I do not belong here.

  • #49

    wut do you mean?

  • #50

    Oh, yes OP is a prodigy. I was wondering for my whole life wat is the best move on move 1, and I figured it out!!!!!!!!!!

    1. e4

  • #51

    P.S. hit CTRL+A for my previous comment.

  • #52
    intermediatedinoz wrote:
    incorrectname wrote:
    poucin wrote:

    They don't play it because too afraid of the beep beep counter attack 1.Nf3 g5!

    lol once my opponent played g5 against me 

    i didn't take it , but i still one

    won

    one-zero

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