Why the Grob is Severely Underrated: An Analysis

Miaoiao

Which guy? I challenge him to play a 3 day per move game. He has White, he must play 1.g4

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gabrichidze
Miaoiao wrote:

Which guy? I challenge him to play a 3 day per move game. He has White, he must play 1.g4

 

 

I mean

Miaoiao

He is hiding, I challenged him. Meaning he KNOWS the Grob is bad.

Miaoiao

I challenged him to play 3 days per move. His settings say that he does not accept challenges from people with rating higher than 1873 (200 below his rating). He aloso does not answer to my messages. 

You can all make your own opinion about chessgm8 now.  

gabrichidze

Ok challenge me for h2 h4 opening

gabrichidze
Miaoiao wrote:

I challenged him to play 3 days per move. His settings say that he does not accept challenges from people with rating higher than 1873 (200 below his rating). He aloso does not answer to my messages. 

You can all make your own opinion about chessgm8 now.  

 

I have challenged you for 30min., but you arent available

Miaoiao

I dont have time tyo play right now for 30 min games. I am ready to meet you in 2 hours from now.

Miaoiao

1. h4 is handing over an advantage to Black, but not a decisive one.

chessgm8
Miaoiao wrote:

I challenged him to play 3 days per move. His settings say that he does not accept challenges from people with rating higher than 1873 (200 below his rating). He aloso does not answer to my messages. 

You can all make your own opinion about chessgm8 now.  

first of all i don't see why anyone needs to get mad about this thread, but...

1. i actually just wasn't logged in at the time you challenged me, i wasn't "hiding"
2. my daily rating is actually only around 1670 ( i don't play that much ) so that's 200 points above my rating in that time format
3. again, i didn't answer your messages because i wasn't logged in

Miaoiao

But somebody has said your rating is over 2000....

I do not get mad. But a discussion where claims are made that something new was found, but in fact not even attempts to find the truth were made, needs to be ridiculed.  

chessgm8

my blitz rating is around 2050, so that's probably what they were referring to.

LionVanHalen

Point is... mainlines became mainline for a reason... tried and tested by master player over decades?

Of course one can win with Grob... but if White do not use one of top four opening... they waste the initiative? 

darkunorthodox88
LionVanHalen wrote:

Point is... mainlines became mainline for a reason... tried and tested by master player over decades?

Of course one can win with Grob... but if White do not use one of top four opening... they waste the initiative? 

what is better a 0.2 rehearsed to death or a 0.1 or even a 0.00 where familiarity either gives you the edge or a time advantage?

LionVanHalen

Familiar is good... Kaspy and RJF won with KID because they knew so well.

But nc3 could transpose to so many different...

Not a fan, to be honest.

unusualkid

To be fair, you could have won with any opening against players of that caliber--they destroyed their own position and blundered all their pieces away.

LionVanHalen

Grob is rubbish. 

Should be banned, for crimes against Chess.

MagdeburgThePianist

To say the Grob is rubbish, is absurd; to say it should be banned, is ridiculous; to even imply that it imposes crimes against Chess, is insanity. Does anyone actually understand what Chess is?

Miaoiao

Nobody says all this. If you want to get rid of criticism of a bad opening, it shows you do not have objective arguments in favor of it.

BL4D3RUNN3R

There are a couple of real refutations. So there's always hope that your opponent knows them all and cannot decide which one to choose and runs out of time.

Lordananas

I believe it works fine for people like me who dont know how to answer it properly, but it ll not work against masters who know they opening theory.