Best 10 Player Of All time

gabisubis

Sure there is pleasure in contemplating one's own games ! I'm currently doing this, under the strict and pitiless eye of Mr Fritz 10 Tongue out.And to my greatest relief,my preferred games essentially pass the test !

My games sheets had been stored in the cellar for several years,actually since I took on bridge 7 years ago.What a delight to travel through them again !

Yes indeed it's a great game ! Bridge too by the way...

RN9

My Top 10:

1.  Kasparov

2.  Fischer

3.  Capablanca

4.  Karpov

5.  Lasker

6.  Alekhine

7.  Botvinik

8.  Morphy

9.  Petrosian

10. Tal

jchurch5566

Hi guys,  here is my list;

Fischer

Capablanca

Alekhine

Kasparov

Botvinick

Lasker

Karpov

Morphy

Stinetz

Petrosian

Watch your backrank!

gxtmf1

Korchnoi and Smyslov aren't being represented enough here; the latter seems to have been pretty good at winning with odd material imbalances. And Euwe was still a World Champion nonetheless. And wheres Spassky on here? Has everyone forgotten him? 

iliosis

Kasparov, Karpov, Capablanca, Fischer, Anand

Fischer was a great player, but not a killer like Kasparov, I am not sure if he could have taken on Karpov either, its hard to say. I think Fischer would surely lose to Kasparov, Garry Kasparov's more agressive play is very obvious if one looks at his. For quite a few years he was the one to say that Machine will never ever beat him, and it couldn't for a long time, until Deep Blue 2. 

gumpty
1) Kasparov 2) Fischer 3) Capablanca 4) Lasker 5) Karpov 6) Alekhine 7) Tal 8) Staunton 9)Smyslov 10) Bronstein
Akuni

Gumpty u chose Staunton? Really? The guy who dodged Morphy and never won a tournament?

 

Must be an english thing, but it looks like you bumped Morphy for him, what a rip off.

gumpty
Staunton was vastly underrated, i have studied his games and he was a genius, he played many bad games is true...but at his best he was right up there....all from a player who didnt start playing chess until he was 26!!
TheOldReb
iliosis wrote:

Kasparov, Karpov, Capablanca, Fischer, Anand

Fischer was a great player, but not a killer like Kasparov, I am not sure if he could have taken on Karpov either, its hard to say. I think Fischer would surely lose to Kasparov, Garry Kasparov's more agressive play is very obvious if one looks at his. For quite a few years he was the one to say that Machine will never ever beat him, and it couldn't for a long time, until Deep Blue 2. 


the "killer" Kasparov gave 2 short draws with white pieces in his match with Kramnik when trailing in the match! Some "killer" !  LOL  I cannot imagine Fischer ever doing such a thing !

oinquarki
BobbyMao123 wrote:
oinquarki wrote:

Top 10 Chess Players in Order of Best to Worst:

1. My cat

2. The ice cream man

3. The author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

4. Sir Gawain

5. Frodo Baggins

6. The actor that played Frodo Baggins

7. A pack of peanut M&Ms

8. Barack Obama

9. Garry Kasparov

10. Rybka

17 1/2. Me (because that's my lucky number)


 Your cat?


 Yes my cat! Can't you read?

Daniel3
Reb wrote:
iliosis wrote:

Kasparov, Karpov, Capablanca, Fischer, Anand

Fischer was a great player, but not a killer like Kasparov, I am not sure if he could have taken on Karpov either, its hard to say. I think Fischer would surely lose to Kasparov, Garry Kasparov's more agressive play is very obvious if one looks at his. For quite a few years he was the one to say that Machine will never ever beat him, and it couldn't for a long time, until Deep Blue 2. 


the "killer" Kasparov gave 2 short draws with white pieces in his match with Kramnik when trailing in the match! Some "killer" !  LOL  I cannot imagine Fischer ever doing such a thing !


I wonder how you would feel, then, if you ever played Kasparov OTB with the Black pieces? I don't think he would offer you a draw.

Kramnik is also a very good positional player (AND one of the strongest, if not the strongest, in the world), so I'm not surprised if Kasparov drawed with him sometimes.

Fischer was a great player, to be sure, but no one was as good as Kasparov. That's a fact; just look at the highest rating ever.

TheOldReb
Daniel3 wrote:
Reb wrote:
iliosis wrote:

Kasparov, Karpov, Capablanca, Fischer, Anand

Fischer was a great player, but not a killer like Kasparov, I am not sure if he could have taken on Karpov either, its hard to say. I think Fischer would surely lose to Kasparov, Garry Kasparov's more agressive play is very obvious if one looks at his. For quite a few years he was the one to say that Machine will never ever beat him, and it couldn't for a long time, until Deep Blue 2. 


the "killer" Kasparov gave 2 short draws with white pieces in his match with Kramnik when trailing in the match! Some "killer" !  LOL  I cannot imagine Fischer ever doing such a thing !


I wonder how you would feel, then, if you ever played Kasparov OTB with the Black pieces? I don't think he would offer you a draw.

Kramnik is also a very good positional player (AND one of the strongest, if not the strongest, in the world), so I'm not surprised if Kasparov drawed with him sometimes.

Fischer was a great player, to be sure, but no one was as good as Kasparov. That's a fact; just look at the highest rating ever.


 Daniel, have you even looked at the two short draws Kasparov gave with white to Kramnik ? I suspect not so, as usual, you dont know what you are talking about. The whole point seems to have gone over your head, again, not a surprise. Let me explain it for you. The whole point is that in a match that you are losing you do NOT give draws with white in like a dozen moves ! And certainly you dont do this when you are a "killer" in chess. Fischer, ofcourse , played to win with both colors more than any other player with the possible exception of Larsen, who also detested short draws. Also, in one of the games in question Kasparov was slightly better , so why would such a great "killer/fighter" give a draw ? How many games did Fischer draw in under 20 moves in his match with Spassky? I doubt he had many 20 ( or less) move draws in his entire career.

Daniel3

Perhaps you have also neglected to look at the highest rating in all of chess history? Let me make it more clear for you to understand:

1851 Kasparov, Garry

This is the ultimate obelisk of playing strength so far. Was that Fischer's rating? 

TheOldReb
Daniel3 wrote:

Perhaps you have also neglected to look at the highest rating in all of chess history? Let me make it more clear for you to understand:

1851 Kasparov, Garry

This is the ultimate obelisk of playing strength so far. Was that Fischer's rating? 


 There is rating inflation in FIDE Daniel. If you add 100 points to Fischer's top rating ( for inflation ) his best would have been 2885 . Ofcourse if you believe there is no rating inflation then you must think all the 2700s are better than Spassky was at his peak of 2680 ? Spassky never broke 2700. There are 30 players or more over 2700 today.

RosarioVampire

i'd add another 1000 points to that, daniel.

e4forme
MichielTummers wrote:

1. Paul Morphy

2. Garry Kasparov

3. Capablanca

4. Bobby Fischer

5. Anatoli Karpov

6. Petrosian

7. Mikhail Tal

8. Spassky

9. Alekhine

10. Keres


 Excellent List!

spoiler1
killthequeen wrote:

um... Capablanca went 8 consecutive years undefeated which was pretty good. Fischer was a loser- he won the title then REFUSED to defend it because he was afraid of losing it so in a way, Fischer barely deserves top ten recognition even though he was brilliant. Lasker is one of my favourites too.


 Fischer wasn't a loser...come'on!

My top ten:  Capablanca.  Karpov.  Kasparov.  Fischer.  Tal.  Botvinnk.  Alekhine.  Morphy.  Spassky.  Geller.

spoiler1
immortalgamer wrote:

They are probably all unknown.  People who took other roads and never wasted their time in the pursuit of chess greatness.

Don't get me wrong...I don't think chess is a complete waste of time :)


 It's so true, there are people out there with brilliant minds, that never get a chance to be discovered and pursue chess the way THE POLGARS (lol) DID...

It's true in other sports as well, but MOST TRUE IN POKER.

You will never EVER know the best poker player, because the game dictates it to remain unknown, for $ reasons...

El_Gremio

magneto!Tongue out  ( you know....the guy from the x-men movies)

Daniel3

Since Garry has the highest rating to date, Reb, he is the best player to date. There is no "rating inflation" in chess, and telling yourself there is will not make Bobby Fischer any greater than he was. Fischer was a great player, but Kasparov was greater. If you want to argue with ratings and what every other GM says, then so be it. Talk to them. At least they know that Kasparov was the strongest player in history, even if you don't believe it.