Greatest Chess Master in History

kindaspongey
FBloggs wrote (~43 minutes ago):

Current Standings:

Bobby Fischer: 25

Paul Morphy: 18 ...

How many previous Stauntonmaster-Morphy posts are being counted by FBloggs?

robbie_1969

LOL

wesleysoisjordan

wesleysoisjordan wrote: man the best player no doubt for me is bobby fischer..hes the GOAT! why? coz he brought down the whole russian empire onhis own ! beating legends like tal petrosian botvinik etc! the man was a genius ...he didnt need any coach or second..russians even conspired to brat him in tournaments..magnus even invited my idol wesley so to norway as a second and was coached by kasparov when they were young..its in youtube the documentaries about fischer..check it out!!!

kindaspongey

In order to try to avoid too much confusion, I should perhaps explicitly explain that this thread is just a sideshow to discuss some aspects of the commentary at the other thread.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/greatest-chess-master-in-history-relatively?page=74

I have nothing against this sort of comment here, but it has to be admitted that there will probably be more attention there.

wesleysoisjordan

wesleysoisjordan wrote: I checked on it.during those times hames were adjourned and at night seconds would help players analyze..fischer had none of that..he would go on the plane to candidates alone or with his sister!botvinik and other russians had whole russian team analyzing adjourned games vs fischer! Whats that? 10 vs 1?check the youtube documentaries!he was that good!when fischer peaked he was dominant in tournaments.i didnt see magnus doing that.at least i didnt see him winning 20 straight games vs GMs like what fischer did!thats insane! I rest my case...

wesleysoisjordan

wesleysoisjordan wrote: I checked on it.during those times hames were adjourned and at night seconds would help players analyze..fischer had none of that..he would go on the plane to candidates alone or with his sister!botvinik and other russians had whole russian team analyzing adjourned games vs fischer! Whats that? 10 vs 1?check the youtube documentaries!he was that good!when fischer peaked he was dominant in tournaments.i didnt see magnus doing that.at least i didnt see him winning 20 straight games vs GMs like what fischer did!thats insane! I rest my case...

wesleysoisjordan

wesleysoisjordan wrote: I checked on it.during those times hames were adjourned and at night seconds would help players analyze..fischer had none of that..he would go on the plane to candidates alone or with his sister!botvinik and other russians had whole russian team analyzing adjourned games vs fischer! Whats that? 10 vs 1?check the youtube documentaries!he was that good!when fischer peaked he was dominant in tournaments.i didnt see magnus doing that.at least i didnt see him winning 20 straight games vs GMs like what fischer did!thats insane! I rest my case...

StanShue
wesleysoisjordan wrote:

wesleysoisjordan wrote: man the best player no doubt for me is bobby fischer..hes the GOAT! why? coz he brought down the whole russian empire onhis own ! beating legends like tal petrosian botvinik etc! the man was a genius ...he didnt need any coach or second..russians even conspired to brat him in tournaments..magnus even invited my idol wesley so to norway as a second and was coached by kasparov when they were young..its in youtube the documentaries about fischer..check it out!!!

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kindaspongey
FBloggs wrote (~1 hour ago):

Greatest Chess Master in History Final Standings:

Bobby Fischer: 25

Paul Morphy: 18 ...

How many previous Stauntonmaster-Morphy posts are being counted by FBloggs?

robbie_1969

I think Karpov might be the most successful tournament player ever

kindaspongey
FBloggs wrote (~30 minutes ago):

... a strong case can be made for Morphy or Fischer ...

With regard to Morphy, I see no escape from the difference between dominating 1858 players and dominating twentieth century players. In 1858, the chess world was so amazingly primitive that players still thought tournaments were a pretty neat idea.

kindaspongey
jazi wrote (~3 days ago): "... As for Carlsen, in Russia we say, that the great is seen from the distance. We just don't know how great he is, and how great he will be. Possibly, he will be the champion for the next 50 years!"
FBloggs wrote (~2 days ago):

... Champion for the next 50 years ― until he's 77 years old? Good grief, man! My guess is that Carlsen won't be champion 10 years from now. The competition at the top is just too tough today for a player to hold onto the championship for decades.

Seems to me that this illustrates why dominance is not a fair way to compare players from different times.

kindaspongey
FBloggs wrote (~15 hours ago):

Greatest Chess Master Current Standings:

 

Bobby Fischer: 25

Paul Morphy: 18 ...

How many previous Stauntonmaster-Morphy posts are being counted by FBloggs?

dannyhume
I like this idea of a parallel thread with side commentary, analysis, and footnotes on the parent thread ... perhaps adding the word “supplement” or “v2” something similar at the end of the title of this thread would be helpful?