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  • #41
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  • #42

    It was a very ugly affair, and almost everyone involved--on both sides--played dirty. I'm sure all the partipants wish they had a do-over. But it is in the past. Susan Polgar is a major force for good in American chess. I she isn't inthehall offame, it is the hall that is diminished 

  • #43
    I can't exactly be unbiased here since Susan and Paul are friends.

    Having said that, the fact that this issue continues to linger so many years down the road isn't doing anyone any good.

    It's time for this issue to be put to rest and it's long past time for Susan to be in the Hall.
  • #44
    ChrisWainscott wrote:
    I can't exactly be unbiased here since Susan and Paul are friends.

    Having said that, the fact that this issue continues to linger so many years down the road isn't doing anyone any good.

    It's time for this issue to be put to rest and it's long past time for Susan to be in the Hall.

    Who's Paul?

  • #45

    Paul Truong is the husband of Susan Polgar.

  • #46
    kindaspongey wrote:

    "... As part of the settlement, Polgar and Truong, have agreed to never contest the USCF Executive Board's action in revoking their USCF memberships; acknowledge that they are no longer members of the USCF or members of the USCF Executive Board; agree to never seek, run for, or accept a leadership position in the USCF; and will never contest the Delegate's actions that ratified the decisions of the USCF Executive Board at the August 2009 Annual Delegates Meeting. ..." - USCF site (2010)

     

    Wow.  That's harsh punishment.   I wonder what happened.  

  • #47

    Accounts of the matter did find their way into nonchess publications. It is probably possible to find some details with google or something. There is a 2008 billwall account at chess.com.

  • #48

    I always found Polgar & Truong to be very, let's say, interested in selling a good story :-) Truong claims to have learnt chess age 5 and become National Champion the same year. Impressive enough if it had been National Champion for some age group, but no, he was National Champion, period :-)

    Polgar has been calling herself Triple Crown World Champion since forever, and the Rapid/Blitz "World Championship" she won was a weekend tournament arranged by her dad at their home, without Chinese participants. 

  • #49
    fabelhaft wrote:

    Paul Truong is the husband of Susan Polgar.

    Ok... so why is it that Chris can't be unbiased since Susan and Paul are "friends"?

  • #50

    "I can't exactly be unbiased here since Susan and Paul are friends. ..." - ChrisWainscott

    I thought that ChrisWainscott was indicating that Susan and Paul are friends of ChrisWainscott.

  • #51
    kindaspongey wrote:

    "I can't exactly be unbiased here since Susan and Paul are friends. ..." - ChrisWainscott

    I thought that ChrisWainscott was indicating that Susan and Paul are friends of ChrisWainscott.

    Oh, I see... makes sense now.

  • #52
    Yes, they are friends of mine.

    So even though I don't find that to affect my ability to be unbiased others will not see it that same way.
  • #53
    StupidGM wrote:
    Ubik42 wrote:

    So, whatever happened to Susan Polgar and the lawsuits? Anyone have an unbiased summary link?

    This is the "Fake Sam Sloan" scandal from 2006.  I was involved in these lawsuits myself because someone impersonated me on USENET, not because they had a grudge against me, but because they wanted to make it appear like they were targeting people on USENET rather than on the USCF Forum.

    Some guy named Brian M. who worked for USCF uncovered something that led to a bunch of lawsuits.  I was suing USCF at the time because they hired Jen Shahade as online Chess Life editor at $25K a year (raised to 40k), without interviewing anyone else, and I thought that was gender bias (no fault of Ms. Shahade's I just thought I should have been interviewed).  My argument had more to do with office work in general since many secretarial jobs that are high-paying often go to a woman who is chosen without any men being interviewed so USCF got cautght up in my politics just as much. 

    I was impersonated on USENET briefly, but whoever did it (and this was never conclusively proven in court) was not targeting me, nor were they even in the top ten of my internet haters at the time (that stemmed from the "PUA movement" on another USENET board).

    The USCF forum at the time was "moderated," while USENET of course has total free speech.  Sam Sloan was posting to USENET about how the Life Member fund had lost $3.4 million, during a hotly contested USCF election.  Sloan took sisue with Bill Goichberg being USCF president because he was also a TD and USCF is a nonprofit.  I personally didn't care much about that issue myself.

    I had been playing online a bit and thought that the Chess Life job would be a great way to fund my training, and it might have been, but here I am now on disability, with enough money to train fulltime (as a hobby until I make a living at chess and hopefully get off the dole).  Not sure if training would have helped me back then because the engines were much weaker, anid my training style requires engines that are 3500 or today's strength.  Back then I was using "ChessGenius" which was like 2650 and not giving perfect moves out the way I get now.

    When I quit in 1991 I had always planned to return to chess when I was retired (which I am now on disability), when I had literally nothing left to do in life, and when the engines had all but solved the game.  So what I'm doing now had actually been planned over twenty-five years ago. 

     To stay in the lawsuit I would have had to refile it in New York or Texas, and I just wasn't up to that.  My mother was dying, I was going blind, and was "delitigating" so I could focus more on other things.  I may have been able to "make a federal case out of it" but again it just wasn't a high priority.  As far as I'm concerned now the matter is well in the past.  I hold no animosity towards anyone involved there,.

    My opinion of Polgar and Truong is that there are far worse people on the planet, though I can't say I'd invite them over for tea.  I'll leave it at that.  Would I vote for her in the Hall of Fame?  Yes, for being the first female GM.  That happened long before.  If OJ Simpson can remain in the football hall of fame, personal issues shouldn't matter anywhere else.

    Opinions are like ***holes this man has one

  • #54

    At least one

  • #55

    Staff, just rename the topic to "what StupidGM thinks about this and that."

  • #56

    Well since Forrest was actually right in the thick of it I'd trust his thoughts more than those that weren't. 

  • #57
    El_Oval wrote:

    Staff, just rename the topic to "what StupidGM thinks about this and that."

    Or rename it to "Chaos ensues after Macer bumps a 5 year old thread by a legendary OP."

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