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Who Is The Greatest Chess Player That Has Ever Lived ???

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badenwurtca

For some reason I got heck recently for starting a thread on a subject that had been covered in another thread by someone else. So let's do it again  lol. 

badenwurtca

Oh and of course Bobby Fischer was the greatest.

AlCzervik

all this time i thought it was either sweatyballs or tonydal... 

badenwurtca

Thanks for the post AlCzervik. Well those two guys were probably the best here at this site  lol.

AboardGreyhound

Either Fisher or Morphy

gargraves
AboardGreyhound wrote:

Either Fisher or Morphy

Why would it be either of them? Fischer and Morphy were amoung the greatest for sure. Morphy was from a very different era- hard to say exactly how he would do with todays more defensive chess. He was dominant in his day, a brilliant mind for chess. Fischer too was dominant for the most part, but fell apart after becoming world champion- he for sure showed the world that he didn't have what it took to stay at the top when he was there- never took a challenger on, so in that way I'd say he should not be "The greatest chess player that ever lived" because he wilted- the 'greatest' whoever that might be, will not crumble like that.

badenwurtca

Thanks for the posts.

komodochess13

Probably Carlsen. With all the modern technology (engines, online tournaments, etc.), I have no doubt Carlsen is the best of all time and would beat Fischer in a standard game.

gargraves
komodochess13 wrote:

Probably Carlsen. With all the modern technology (engines, online tournaments, etc.), I have no doubt Carlsen is the best of all time and would beat Fischer in a standard game.

I agree, if what was meant by greatest is strongest player to this point in time. But I take greatest to maybe imply long term dominance in chess-that might turn out to be Carlsen, eventually. That’s what I was eluding to in my comment- Fischer and Morphy were amazing, but short term in their undisputed best. To me, if you are going to crown a “greatest of all”, you should consider both results and length of dominance over the other players. Someone who’s reign stood the test of time, with younger generations coming up and challenging them, and they were all shut down. Kasparov did similar, a long run, back and forth, successes and failures. Maybe someone will be so dominant that they never loose their title?

fabelhaft

Kasparov, Lasker and Carlsen top three.

badenwurtca

Thanks for the new posts.

quietheathen1st

carlsen. he is simply more accurate than other players, and consistently so. i believe that kramnik and kasparov, at their primes, could 100% challenge him. ivanchuck in a good state of mind as well hahaha

long_quach

The one that invented the game who's name is lost in the sands of time.

long_quach

The second greatest is the one who invented Chinese Chess, also lost in the sands of time.

long_quach

3rd greatest

John McCarthy, the father of Artificial Intelligence.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-do-i-analyze-games?page=3#comment-48567566

long_quach

4th.

I'd have to say Botvinnik. After 2 World Wars. The first Soviet world champion, who left a long legacy of Soviet champions. He's the first of a kind.

long_quach

5th.

Elo. 'nuff said.

 

Damn 5 posts rule. I have to post in edit.

6th

This guy, who use chess as a model for martial arts. (This is not a joke).

Not a joke. This is pre-fight prediction.

Not a joke at all.

 

 

KoN_Ulla

Kasparov

chamo2074

Morphy of course. I want to see if Magnus Carlsen can calculate 5 mates in 10 moves in a simul blindfolded, after he spotted the guy a knight or a rook, and sacrificed most of his pieces! And note there weren't engines at that time so Morphy gets the credits. He can also play positional sometimes, as he played numerous positional openings including the Sicilian and the French defense that were not popular at that time

long_quach
long_quach wrote:

6th

This guy, who use chess as a model for martial arts. (This is not a joke).

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-purpose-of-chess-pieces#comment-48602006