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Why did Bobby Fischer stopped playing chess

  • #81
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  • #83
    wingchun1 wrote:

    I merely gave Timman as an example of the wave of new players emerging at that time. Actually, Timman was a very strong player (Just behind Karpov and Kasparov.....even got to Fide WC final against Karpov.) Others that would have proved difficult for Fischer might include Short. Now, any of the top 10 players would probably beat Fischer in a classical match, even in his prime. 

     

     

    Fortunately, I have no rule against responding to imbecilic or trollish posts (even if it’s my first time). So let me just add that you forgot to include yourself and pretty much every other living chess player on the planet in your post. Fischer was “scared” of all of us. Including those “top players” he crushed 6-0. We would ALL have “destroyed” him in a match if given the chance. Too bad he is dead and so we can never actually prove it. But, hey, there is no harm in us claiming whatever we want and writing imaginary nonsense about great legends that are already dead no matter how dominant and phenomenal they were during their time. So type away, laddie!!

  • #84

    IMHO Fischer felt he wouldn't have such a brilliant level of play he had had anymore. So he decided to retire on his "peak". 

  • #85
    TomSanah wrote:
    wingchun1 wrote:

    I merely gave Timman as an example of the wave of new players emerging at that time. Actually, Timman was a very strong player (Just behind Karpov and Kasparov.....even got to Fide WC final against Karpov.) Others that would have proved difficult for Fischer might include Short. Now, any of the top 10 players would probably beat Fischer in a classical match, even in his prime. 

     

     

    Fortunately, I have no rule against responding to imbecilic or trollish posts (even if it’s my first time). So let me just add that you forgot to include yourself and pretty much every other living chess player on the planet in your post. Fischer was “scared” of all of us. Including those “top players” he crushed 6-0. We would ALL have “destroyed” him in a match if given the chance. Too bad he is dead and so we can never actually prove it. But, hey, there is no harm in us claiming whatever we want and writing imaginary nonsense about great legends that are already dead no matter how dominant and phenomenal they were during their time. So type away, laddie!!

    I'm not talking about you and me. I'm talking about players such as Karpov and Kasparov, who I don't think Fischer would defeat in a classical match. I also mentioned some other top players (eg Korchnoi, Timman etc) of the era and into the 1980's and 90's, who Fischer would not defeat 6-0. 

  • #86

    You are wrong, but this cannot be demontrated.

  • #87
    mcris wrote:

    You are wrong, but this cannot be demontrated.

    So Fischer would have defeated Karpov and Kasparov 6-0???????  come on!!!!

     

  • #88

    Yourself wrote about defeating those in a classical match.   Timman, Korchnoi and others, yes 6-0.

    Don't bother anymore.

  • #89

    The very fact that, as you said 'this cannot be demonstrated' shows that my view is as valid as yours. I believe (without researching) that Fischer did defeat Bent Larsen 6-0 in a match. However, Korchnoi, Karpov and many other players (headed by Kasparov) heading into the 1980's/early 90's would have been a tougher challenge, with no guarantee of Fischer as world champion (although probably a world top 10 player for some time). 

    As an example, take a look at the 'return match' between Fischer & Spassky (in the late 80's/early 90's). OK, Fischer won with a reasonable GM standard of play, but players such as Karpov, Korchnoi, Timman, Short, Speelman, Anand, Kasparov [and others] would have trounced him in a match in the 1980's. You know it is true!!!!!

     

  • #90
    wingchun1 wrote:
    TomSanah wrote:
    wingchun1 wrote:

    I merely gave Timman as an example of the wave of new players emerging at that time. Actually, Timman was a very strong player (Just behind Karpov and Kasparov.....even got to Fide WC final against Karpov.) Others that would have proved difficult for Fischer might include Short. Now, any of the top 10 players would probably beat Fischer in a classical match, even in his prime. 

     

     

    Fortunately, I have no rule against responding to imbecilic or trollish posts (even if it’s my first time). So let me just add that you forgot to include yourself and pretty much every other living chess player on the planet in your post. Fischer was “scared” of all of us. Including those “top players” he crushed 6-0. We would ALL have “destroyed” him in a match if given the chance. Too bad he is dead and so we can never actually prove it. But, hey, there is no harm in us claiming whatever we want and writing imaginary nonsense about great legends that are already dead no matter how dominant and phenomenal they were during their time. So type away, laddie!!

    I'm not talking about you and me. I'm talking about players such as Karpov and Kasparov, who I don't think Fischer would defeat in a classical match. I also mentioned some other top players (eg Korchnoi, Timman etc) of the era and into the 1980's and 90's, who Fischer would not defeat 6-0. 

     

    It seems you don't understand sarcasm. So let me be more straightforward. My point is that you are free to speculate and make up any claims you want without the slightest shred of evidence for what you are saying, and even if such claims clearly contradict available evidence to any reasonable person. That's what I was saying. I was also pointing out that if you are going to start making up claims about all kinds of people who would have beaten Fischer in 1972 (if only they could enter a time machine), you might as well include yourself in it. It's a free world.

  • #91
    TomSanah wrote:
    wingchun1 wrote:
    TomSanah wrote:
    wingchun1 wrote:

    I merely gave Timman as an example of the wave of new players emerging at that time. Actually, Timman was a very strong player (Just behind Karpov and Kasparov.....even got to Fide WC final against Karpov.) Others that would have proved difficult for Fischer might include Short. Now, any of the top 10 players would probably beat Fischer in a classical match, even in his prime. 

     

     

    Fortunately, I have no rule against responding to imbecilic or trollish posts (even if it’s my first time). So let me just add that you forgot to include yourself and pretty much every other living chess player on the planet in your post. Fischer was “scared” of all of us. Including those “top players” he crushed 6-0. We would ALL have “destroyed” him in a match if given the chance. Too bad he is dead and so we can never actually prove it. But, hey, there is no harm in us claiming whatever we want and writing imaginary nonsense about great legends that are already dead no matter how dominant and phenomenal they were during their time. So type away, laddie!!

    I'm not talking about you and me. I'm talking about players such as Karpov and Kasparov, who I don't think Fischer would defeat in a classical match. I also mentioned some other top players (eg Korchnoi, Timman etc) of the era and into the 1980's and 90's, who Fischer would not defeat 6-0. 

     

    It seems you don't understand sarcasm. So let me be more straightforward. My point is that you are free to speculate and make up any claims you want without the slightest shred of evidence for what you are saying, and even if such claims clearly contradict available evidence to any reasonable person. That's what I was saying. I was also pointing out that if you are going to start making up claims about all kinds of people who would have beaten Fischer in 1972 (if only they could enter a time machine), you might as well include yourself in it. It's a free world.

    Fine.....not sure it is a free world though!

  • #92

    Fischer was fed up with FIDE. That simple. He thought the champion had the right to dictate rules (which is how it was pre-FIDE). He single handedly rekt the entire soviet union. I'm sure he was afraid of Karpov. Considering the latter himself put his chances at 40% and Fischer made his demands before Karpov won the candidates tournament. 

  • #93

    I thought he passed away.

  • #94

    Do you agree to what I just said ? @FortunaMajor 

    https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/add-3-word-to-the-story?page=1147

     

  • #95

    Huh?

  • #96

    I'm thinking he found out he could play against computers, or play on the internet, and anonymously. So he just did that instead of going to tournaments since it's kind of a pain to travel!

  • #97

    stuzzicadenti wrote:

    Some people say after he become world champion, he was too scared to lose, against Karpov and others top players, maybe also future younger players who he knows would study his games and style in very depth. Some say after he got title, he wanted everything to be in his way and FIDE should listen all his demands. Some even say his mental and psychology problems was too much for him to handle and his mind got distracted from the board.

    Which do you think was main reason for Fischer quitting chess?

    it not so u should see the movie pawn sacrifice and then see it true bit not clearly
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