Dai Shogi - dax00 vs KaijiAUT

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dax00

I am also not interested in tenjiku shogi. My plans are to fully focus on chu shogi, in order to develop better lines and systems, and to teach those who eagerly wish to learn. I determined that it was important to at least play one game of dai shogi to understand what chu shogi originated from.

Diagram duplicated for convenience

KaijiAUT

4五角

evert823
KaijiAUT wrote:

@evert823 

Maybe dax00 may be interested to try it, but I think I would like to stick to chu shogi. I have gone through the rules of tenjiku shogi in the past, but it didn't look like a good game for me (I didn't like the idea of burning pieces). And now Dai shogi is an interesting experience, but I enjoy Chu shogi much more. So I am sorry but my motivation for tenjiku is not so high, but If you can not find an opponent I can play a game with you in future^^

Please don't worry. I have two persons in NL who like to play this OTB.

KaijiAUT

Okay fine than happy.png 

dax00

6七馬

☖同角☗9九歩

KaijiAUT

☖同角☗9九歩

9四馬

dax00

dax00



So here's the table. Not that useful by itself, but at least it accounts for common game dynamics. To actually put the table to good use, you'll need to know how to read the flow of a game, know which pieces do better in whichever type of game/structure, understand how positional arrangements favor or disfavor pieces (and by how much). It's much much better than any other list of piece values you'll find. The really good stuff is my list of positional bonuses, which would allow an amateur at chu shogi to apply the table above. But that is neither easy to write down nor free.

KaijiAUT

10二銀

Thank you much for the table! This is very useful to think through the pieces. 

dax00

6七角

☖同馬☗4九歩

KaijiAUT

☖同馬☗4九歩

5五銅

dax00

KaijiAUT

6六銅

dax00

9十一麒

KaijiAUT

11四竪

dax00

This could take quite a long time, so I'm happy to start another chu shogi game.

KaijiAUT

Do you mean instead or extra to the dai shogi game? I would also like to start another Chu Shogi, but it would be to much to do it extra to the other games.

You have the better position here, you can count it as your win if you want to switch to chu shogi. If you like to carry on I will play:

10四竪