Debate: What to call "Online Chess"...

Good for you, jbird 39! Your comment should finally end the agony of all the empty-headed prattle that has been so abundant in this thread. I fear, however, that it won't. It seems that many are just amusing themselves by making a silly game of it by seeing how clever they can be. Sophistry, in a word.

Okay, so even though no transmission is leaving the site. It's still correspondence? Well, hell's bells, everything online should have correspondence before the title. Correspondence forums, Correspondence twitter, Correspondence Chess960, etc.

Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves - for we shall never cease to be amused...

It appears to have not changed since 2007, and they still play by sending the moves directly to players. Nothing like this site.

From their site:

When your opponent moves you get an email notification like this:

Subject: ICCF: Last name, First moves Qxh5 Message from your opponent:

Hi Franklin,
Blah, blah, blah, etc.

Talk later,
name

[Event "1st WS USCCC-P03"]
[Site "ICCF"]
[Date "2005.4.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Campbell, J. Franklin"]
[Black "Last, First"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2129"]
[BlackElo "nnnn"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 O-O 5.a3 Bxc3+
6.Qxc3 b6 7.Bg5 Bb7 8.e3 d6 9.f3 Nbd7 10.Nh3 c5
*

Your time left: 45 days 0:00
Opponent time left: 42 days 0:00

ICCF - The International Correspondence Chess Federation www.iccf.com www.iccf-webchess.com

And while their site has an overwhelming number of active members on it. 24 right now, all guests. I can see how they are "official."

In a single hour on this site has more players than a month there.

In chess this move is called desperado, I believe?

I'll repeat:  The medium itself is irrelevant.

Turn based play here is non-concurrent communication of chess moves over a distance just like it was with telegraph, just like it was with postcards and just like it was with e-mail.

Correspondence is an entirely appropriate -- in fact, a perfect -- adjective.

As one nod to modernity spam-free Corresponence Chess would be very pleasant.

I kinda like Cycle chess. Just liked the simplicity of it at first, but it does fit as well under several definitions of it.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cycle

2b. one complete performance of a vibration, electric oscillation, current alternation, or other periodic process.

And

4. a long period of time

Many may think of it as meaning only a loop or bicycle, but it stays simple and does have a certain catchiness to it. It allows branding and future changes to how the game could develop. It also distinguishes it from how chess960 is played here, (which the name would also need to be looked up to know what it is.)

It also kind of fits in with Erik's picks of: Daily, Slow (bleh), Anytime (no better than online), etc. And his view (which I agree with) that Correspondence Chess is "such a long and awkward word."

But doesn't correspondence means essentially sending a message from one place to another? If the "message" never leaves the server, then how is it a correspondence?

I'll remind you I don't check my email to play and I'd imagine that many also don't. Especially ones that play 20+ games at a time, so they can come back whenever and continue their games in progress.

Maybe if most people played one or two games with a 10 day interval between moves, then it could be more useful to get notified. But why not just go to the site itself rather than check your email to see if it's your turn?

How did it get to the server?  How does it get to your computer?

Simultaneous Chess has more to do with the style of the player and not much to do with the style or method of play.

In a similar sense you could call it Audio chess since some players may like the sound effects. But this doesn't really describe the game, but rather the player's preference.

I myself don't see much point in playing 50 games at once, and would hope that in the future they will implement a system that allows me to play against people who tend to play few games as well, so that I know they are more likely putting more thought into their play, without me having to hunt for these people myself. You can already play against people who tend to make quicker moves.

Packets of data are sent. Same way Live Chess works.

I know it's a little late in the topic, but how is all chess online?

I'm fairly sure he meant all chess play online here.

Ah. I was thinking that, but I wan'tsure why he worded it like that.

Your point seems to be an extremely difficuly one to grasp. Most folks just don't see it that way.

Distance isn't relevant. I can play someone in china as easily as in my very own home. Just one more reason why it doesn't fit anymore.

Not sure why the temporal aspect is ignored, as that is the only way to accurately describe it. Else you could be describing any type of chess played here with that term.

So it doesn't all stay on the server....

It all stays on the server, but is visible on your screen because information was sent to you. I sorta think that's what you said.

Well, my moves originate with me, it doesn't get to the server until I enter it into my computer and submit it, and even then it still has to make it's way to my opponent's computer, who may or may not be present to see it.

If that's not correspondence, I don't know what is.