Debate: What to call "Online Chess"...

  • #1021

    ChazR, I don't think it's a pity at all "that the Great Bard of Avon is not alive to help us in this quest" to find a new name for "online chess" or "turn-based chess." After all, we do have you; and you give the strong impression that you know far more than anyone else on the site about Shakespeare. Can't you just step in for him?

  • #1022

    Could someone please list the the names of the other systems still available for playing chess on  the internet? This is the only one I know of.

  • #1023

    Wrong again, TheGrobe. See: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/preventative. Preventative is used interchangeabley as a noun or an adjective.

  • #1024
    When we are done here, we can turn our attention to music - there are so many archaic terms there that could benefit from our newspeak zeal...
  • #1025

    Actually, my zeal is for oldspeak to a certain extent, not newspeak. Perhaps "traditionalspeak" would be a more apt term for my meaning.

  • #1026

    Takes all kinds....so long as we are not unduly fardelled by bared bodkins.

  • #1027

    Preventative is disputed.

  • #1028

    Sooner wrote:

    Actually, my zeal is for oldspeak to a certain extent, not newspeak. Perhaps "traditional speak" would be a more apt term for my meaning................

    I know, Gerry, I was not referring to you... Just wanted to make a point that what should have been a simple and done discussion on whether one should adhere to the (obvious, to me at least) name "Correspondence Chess" or not, is turning into a tedious thread with an Orwellian (or Kafkaesque, if you prefer) flavour to it...

  • #1029

    chess for the lethargic

  • #1030

    You got that right, Hari! This thread became a verbal analogue to the carnival house of mirrors long ago and, like Boris Karloff's "The Mummy," continues ever to make its slow, laborious, senseless, but ineluctable way onward, dragging one leg along behind it all the while.

  • #1031

    CHECK CHESS! You have to CHECK in daily to CHECK on the progress of your game, to see if your opponent worked his way out of CHECK and is only a couple of moves from putting you in CHECK mate.

  • #1032
    TheGrobe wrote:

    Preventative is disputed.

    Your authority?

  • #1033

    For anyone this may apply to:

    There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

    This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

    In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

       

  • #1034
    ChazR wrote:

    For anyone this may apply to:

    There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

    This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

    In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

       

    This sounds exactly like one of the chess.com members.

  • #1035

    Sorry guys---you misconstrued the (mildly misquoted) cookbook (DSM) definition of Histrionic Personality Disorder.   I don't know what person you're talking about, but I'm jumping in because as a psychologist, I hate seeing pseudo-psychological info being disseminated.  Someone with HPD doesn't need to be "the best" or be "right" ----With HPD, the need is to be "noticed," to be looked at, listened to, sought out by others to be given more attention. The key is in the first sentence: "excessive attention-seeking behavior."  That's it. The only additional inference we can add is that the person does not like "being ignored."

    One more caution: as with all personality categories, there's a broad spectrum of intensity in the characteristics.  You've quoted a "Disorder," which indicates a pathological degree of symptamotology.  A "Histionic Personality TYPE" is just a normal variant of all the many "types" of homo sapiens you run into every day---on the street----or on a site for "Interwebs Electrochess." Laughing (sorry, couldn't resist.)  

  • #1036

    snooker chess

  • #1037
    ChazR wrote:

    For anyone this may apply to:

    There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

    This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

    In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

       

    And the relevance of your comment to the issue of a suitable new name for "online chess" or "turn-based chess" would be what?

  • #1038
    motherinlaw wrote:

    Sorry guys---you misconstrued the (mildly misquoted) cookbook (DSM) definition of Histrionic Personality Disorder.   I don't know what person you're talking about, but I'm jumping in because as a psychologist, I hate seeing pseudo-psychological info being disseminated.  Someone with HPD doesn't need to be "the best" or be "right" ----With HPD, the need is to be "noticed," to be looked at, listened to, sought out by others to be given more attention. The key is in the first sentence: "excessive attention-seeking behavior."  That's it. The only additional inference we can add is that the person does not like "being ignored."

    One more caution: as with all personality categories, there's a broad spectrum of intensity in the characteristics.  You've quoted a "Disorder," which indicates a pathological degree of symptamotology.  A "Histionic Personality TYPE" is just a normal variant of all the many "types" of homo sapiens you run into every day---on the street----or on a site for "Interwebs Electrochess."  (sorry, couldn't resist.)  

    A very praiseworthy comment, motherinlaw. I commend you for it even though I do not possess the technical expertise upon which to base my praise of it. However, it was an intellectually well-balanced, sensible, thoughtfully nuanced statement. That much I can tell as a layman. It was a refreshing counterweight to ChazR's comment. And, as for relevance to the topic at hand, you covered that by offering your own suggestion for a new name, although it's not one I would ever choose. YUK! Would one have to don a Flash Gordon suit to play a game with a name like that?

  • #1039

    "OMG!!  Sooner, Did you just call my comment Irrelevant??!!!" .....(as a true histrionic would reply).....  "I Can TOtally NOT BELIEVE You Just DID That!!!"

    SurprisedYellSurprisedCrySurprisedKissSurprisedInnocentSurprised  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   KissSmileKiss

  • #1040

    My question is are they going to ever change it?  They had that pole a while ago and Correspondance Chess won by quite a large margin, if my memory serves me well.

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