Debate: What to call "Online Chess"...

Sooner

Wrong again, TheGrobe. See: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/preventative. Preventative is used interchangeabley as a noun or an adjective.

himath2009
When we are done here, we can turn our attention to music - there are so many archaic terms there that could benefit from our newspeak zeal...
Sooner

Actually, my zeal is for oldspeak to a certain extent, not newspeak. Perhaps "traditionalspeak" would be a more apt term for my meaning.

xqsme

Takes all kinds....so long as we are not unduly fardelled by bared bodkins.

TheGrobe

Preventative is disputed.

himath2009

Sooner wrote:

Actually, my zeal is for oldspeak to a certain extent, not newspeak. Perhaps "traditional speak" would be a more apt term for my meaning................

I know, Gerry, I was not referring to you... Just wanted to make a point that what should have been a simple and done discussion on whether one should adhere to the (obvious, to me at least) name "Correspondence Chess" or not, is turning into a tedious thread with an Orwellian (or Kafkaesque, if you prefer) flavour to it...

e4nf3

chess for the lethargic

Sooner

You got that right, Hari! This thread became a verbal analogue to the carnival house of mirrors long ago and, like Boris Karloff's "The Mummy," continues ever to make its slow, laborious, senseless, but ineluctable way onward, dragging one leg along behind it all the while.

BigLew

CHECK CHESS! You have to CHECK in daily to CHECK on the progress of your game, to see if your opponent worked his way out of CHECK and is only a couple of moves from putting you in CHECK mate.

Sooner
TheGrobe wrote:

Preventative is disputed.

Your authority?

ChazR

For anyone this may apply to:

There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

   

AlCzervik
ChazR wrote:

For anyone this may apply to:

There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

   

This sounds exactly like one of the chess.com members.

motherinlaw

Sorry guys---you misconstrued the (mildly misquoted) cookbook (DSM) definition of Histrionic Personality Disorder.   I don't know what person you're talking about, but I'm jumping in because as a psychologist, I hate seeing pseudo-psychological info being disseminated.  Someone with HPD doesn't need to be "the best" or be "right" ----With HPD, the need is to be "noticed," to be looked at, listened to, sought out by others to be given more attention. The key is in the first sentence: "excessive attention-seeking behavior."  That's it. The only additional inference we can add is that the person does not like "being ignored."

One more caution: as with all personality categories, there's a broad spectrum of intensity in the characteristics.  You've quoted a "Disorder," which indicates a pathological degree of symptamotology.  A "Histionic Personality TYPE" is just a normal variant of all the many "types" of homo sapiens you run into every day---on the street----or on a site for "Interwebs Electrochess." Laughing (sorry, couldn't resist.)  

e4nf3

snooker chess

Sooner
ChazR wrote:

For anyone this may apply to:

There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

   

And the relevance of your comment to the issue of a suitable new name for "online chess" or "turn-based chess" would be what?

Sooner
motherinlaw wrote:

Sorry guys---you misconstrued the (mildly misquoted) cookbook (DSM) definition of Histrionic Personality Disorder.   I don't know what person you're talking about, but I'm jumping in because as a psychologist, I hate seeing pseudo-psychological info being disseminated.  Someone with HPD doesn't need to be "the best" or be "right" ----With HPD, the need is to be "noticed," to be looked at, listened to, sought out by others to be given more attention. The key is in the first sentence: "excessive attention-seeking behavior."  That's it. The only additional inference we can add is that the person does not like "being ignored."

One more caution: as with all personality categories, there's a broad spectrum of intensity in the characteristics.  You've quoted a "Disorder," which indicates a pathological degree of symptamotology.  A "Histionic Personality TYPE" is just a normal variant of all the many "types" of homo sapiens you run into every day---on the street----or on a site for "Interwebs Electrochess."  (sorry, couldn't resist.)  

A very praiseworthy comment, motherinlaw. I commend you for it even though I do not possess the technical expertise upon which to base my praise of it. However, it was an intellectually well-balanced, sensible, thoughtfully nuanced statement. That much I can tell as a layman. It was a refreshing counterweight to ChazR's comment. And, as for relevance to the topic at hand, you covered that by offering your own suggestion for a new name, although it's not one I would ever choose. YUK! Would one have to don a Flash Gordon suit to play a game with a name like that?

motherinlaw

"OMG!!  Sooner, Did you just call my comment Irrelevant??!!!" .....(as a true histrionic would reply).....  "I Can TOtally NOT BELIEVE You Just DID That!!!"

SurprisedYellSurprisedCrySurprisedKissSurprisedInnocentSurprised  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   KissSmileKiss

ClavierCavalier

My question is are they going to ever change it?  They had that pole a while ago and Correspondance Chess won by quite a large margin, if my memory serves me well.

AlCzervik

Correspondence Chess climbed that pole like a pro.

PHI33

To capture the war-like nature of the game:

1. online chess -> siege chess

2. live chess -> skirmish chess

Blitz, of course, comes from the fast-paced war tactic called blitzkrieg. It seems to be a fairly popular way of naming chess related stuff.