12/15/2012 - Mate in 5

  • #201

    Most players don't need to think thirteen moves ahead. When you know a certain position leads to a loss, you play the best move you can.

    Bd4 was obvious. The rest was forced. All you are doing is throwing pieces away to delay mate.

  • #202

    Forced mate.

  • #203

    The point of a "mate in X" is that there is a mate in X moves, not more or less.  These are not games, they are compositions using the rules of chess, more often used in struggles between two players or teams of players, to create an artistic effect--or, more so in the daily puzzles here, to demonstrate some tactical motif.  If there is not a mate in X, then the problem is "cooked"--ruined by unintended moves not anticipated by the composer.  Bd4, then Qxd4 after capturing that bishop, was what I suspect the composer of this one missed--a defense against mate along the diagonal. 

  • #204

    k

  • #205

    There is NO mate in 5.

  • #206
    PeaceRequiresAnarchy wrote:
    Bryan681972 wrote:

    What the heck is this?  After the several hours long delay, this is what you come up with?  Come on.

    I know it's a free service, but yeah you have to wonder why they do such a poor job when it would be so easy for them to do it much better.

    Maybe the daily puzzle person is just trying to get as many comments as possible. I have noticed that the puzzles generally get more comments whenever there is something really stupid that people want to point out, like the fact that this is not a mate in 4.

    HAHAH good point, fella.

  • #207

    give us a hard one!

  • #208

    Nice

  • #209

    Cool

  • #210

    Is the puzzle broken?It says "You have solved this problem!" after white's 4th move.At that point, black can do 4. Bd4, 5.c3 x d4, 5.Qb6 x d4, and no mate!Or is it just me?

  • #211
    bambithegambi wrote:

    Is the puzzle broken?It says "You have solved this problem!" after white's 4th move.At that point, black can do 4. Bd4, 5.c3 x d4, 5.Qb6 x d4, and no mate!Or is it just me?

    Yes.  You are correct.  The puzzle should be titled "Mate in 13".  Check out post #190 for the correct solution with a diagram.  You can use different move orders to get to the solution, but everything is pretty much forced.  Interestingly enough, this puzzle was originally titled "Mate in 4" and then changed to "Mate in 5, which is still wrong!

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