3/10/2012 - White to Draw

  • #121

    lol easy

  • #122

    Easy Breezie. I would like to clarify this problem to everyone. ............

  • #123
    Baffling !
    You've only got to read the posts on this from beginning to end (and some of us do) to realise how utterly bemused & confused most people are.  I managed to get about 3 moves right by playing tactically but I didn't understand the objective.

      So white has to force a draw.  First principles then (copied from the Learn/Basic Rules section of this site):-
    1. The position reaches a stalemate where it is one player’s turn to move, but his king is NOT in check and yet he does not have another legal move
    2. The players may simply agree to a draw and stop playing
    3. There are not enough pieces on the board to force a checkmate (example: a king and a bishop vs. a king)
    4. A player declares a draw if the same exact position is repeated three times (though not necessarily three times in a row)
    5. Fifty consecutive moves have been played where neither player has moved a pawn or captured a piece.

        So which of these applies when you get to the solution ? I just don't get it even after reading 'gutartas's analysis.
        Is this Chess.com's revenge for all the whining that goes on in this forum ?
  • #124
    stephen_33 wrote:
    Baffling !
    You've only got to read the posts on this from beginning to end (and some of us do) to realise how utterly bemused & confused most people are.  I managed to get about 3 moves right by playing tactically but I didn't understand the objective.

      So white has to force a draw.  First principles then (copied from the Learn/Basic Rules section of this site):-
    The position reaches a stalemate where it is one player’s turn to move, but his king is NOT in check and yet he does not have another legal move The players may simply agree to a draw and stop playing There are not enough pieces on the board to force a checkmate (example: a king and a bishop vs. a king) A player declares a draw if the same exact position is repeated three times (though not necessarily three times in a row) Fifty consecutive moves have been played where neither player has moved a pawn or captured a piece.

      So which of these applies when you get to the solution ? I just don't get it even after reading 'gutartas's analysis.
      Is this Chess.com's revenge for all the whining that goes on in this forum ?

    4.

     

    I thought you said you read all the posts from beginning to end.

  • #125
    I think in this case, 'draw' means escaping a checkmate. Well, a pretty hard and unexpected puzzle it is!
  • #126

    ???

  • #127

    I think I like solving for Mate better.. Im Not a draw type player

  • #128

    Thanks for the lesson!  A draw is worth 1/2 point!  Better than no point at all.

  • #129

    I didn't get it right, but I can see the draw.

  • #130
    Wilderboard wrote:

    didnt read the title...was trying to find a way to mate...damn...


     LOL... I did.  It pays.

  • #131
  • #132

    White should win this position easily.

  • #133

    Good puzzle, relatively difficult

  • #134

    Tough one.

  • #135

    HARD

  • #136

    A very difficult puzzle, i´m missed in second moveSmile

  • #137

    difficult

  • #138

    wow:)

  • #139

    The solution given is not very convincing. The problem is, after 1.Bh3 white doesn't threaten anything. So 1...Bxh3 (or 1...Qxh3) is not forced for black. For example, why not 1...Bxe2 followed maybe by a check Bf3+ or BxN? Here's a nice continuation:

  • #140

    Ah, now I see why B-h3 was necessary. Qxh2 would have been a mate. Here I was trying to look for something for the white queen to do. 

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