3/11/2011 - Cohn, 1928

An1m8r

Playing for stalemate is something I need to start learning... interesting strategy. 

j95959

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karblack

fácil

SmokinJ9
Jpr wrote:

how have i solved it? surely white loses...


white can force a draw.  if black queen captures rook, stalemate.  if black advances pawn, rxQ+ then white can capture pawn.  if black moves king, rook can capture queen then pawn. 

accio_joe
localoptimum wrote:

The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?  


 If Qxe3 it's stalemate.

Admin350
Jpr wrote:

how have i solved it? surely white loses...


 I understand that it becomes a stalemate, but in these cases stalemates seem stupid... white can't move because if he does, he gets taken, but isn't that the point?  Black should win this one because it was he that forced white into "passing" because he had no available move. An unfortunate, (and counter-intuitive, if not "cheating") rule of chess.  To me this is a checkmate, and when i teach people how to play, i will always tell them so, chess is about winning, not forcing a "draw" in favor of the loser.

szammie
localoptimum wrote:

The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?  


 U r right!  This is not a stalemate; Black will win (remember yesterday's puzzle; the end game).

SZ.

cfrench49

Interesting.

sen_kwan
szammie wrote:
localoptimum wrote:

The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?  


 U r right!  This is not a stalemate; Black will win (remember yesterday's puzzle; the end game).

SZ.


no.. its a draw..

theres no chance for black to win..
Jenubis
Jpr wrote:

how have i solved it? surely white loses...


If black takes the rook, white's king can not move anywhere and forces a stalemate.

If the queen does not take the rook, white simply takes the queen, black takes back and the white pawn will never be promoted.

jamessaul

stalemate

tempora-mutantor

nice stalemate  Cool

Rogalentis

What about 1...Qxe3 2.Kxe3 Kd5 3.Kd3 Kc5

is it still draw?

RothKevin

yay forced draw Cry

Escapest_Pawn

It should be noted that if white plays 3Kd2, then 3...b2 only draws, but 3...QxRe3+ (sacking his queen for white's rook) wins for black.

tjfjerstad

why wouldn't black just take the rook?

kaichess

nice

roark_sn

nice forced stalemate

Big_McLargeHuge
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che123

nice stalemate, a draw is better than a lost