3/11/2011 - Cohn, 1928

  • #101

    i don't feel very solved.

  • #102

    nice one. forced stalemate or insufficient draw.

  • #103

    Playing for stalemate is something I need to start learning... interesting strategy. 

  • #104

    Last

  • #105

    fácil

  • #106
    Jpr wrote:

    how have i solved it? surely white loses...


    white can force a draw.  if black queen captures rook, stalemate.  if black advances pawn, rxQ+ then white can capture pawn.  if black moves king, rook can capture queen then pawn. 

  • #107
    localoptimum wrote:

    The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?  


     If Qxe3 it's stalemate.

  • #108
    Jpr wrote:

    how have i solved it? surely white loses...


     I understand that it becomes a stalemate, but in these cases stalemates seem stupid... white can't move because if he does, he gets taken, but isn't that the point?  Black should win this one because it was he that forced white into "passing" because he had no available move. An unfortunate, (and counter-intuitive, if not "cheating") rule of chess.  To me this is a checkmate, and when i teach people how to play, i will always tell them so, chess is about winning, not forcing a "draw" in favor of the loser.

  • #109
    localoptimum wrote:

    The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?  


     U r right!  This is not a stalemate; Black will win (remember yesterday's puzzle; the end game).

    SZ.

  • #110

    Interesting.

  • #111
    szammie wrote:
    localoptimum wrote:

    The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?  


     U r right!  This is not a stalemate; Black will win (remember yesterday's puzzle; the end game).

    SZ.


    no.. its a draw..

    theres no chance for black to win..
  • #112
    Jpr wrote:

    how have i solved it? surely white loses...


    If black takes the rook, white's king can not move anywhere and forces a stalemate.

    If the queen does not take the rook, white simply takes the queen, black takes back and the white pawn will never be promoted.

  • #113

    stalemate

  • #114

    nice stalemate  Cool

  • #115

    What about 1...Qxe3 2.Kxe3 Kd5 3.Kd3 Kc5

    is it still draw?

  • #116

    yay forced draw Cry

  • #117

    It should be noted that if white plays 3Kd2, then 3...b2 only draws, but 3...QxRe3+ (sacking his queen for white's rook) wins for black.

  • #118

    why wouldn't black just take the rook?

  • #119

    nice

  • #120

    nice forced stalemate

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