# 3/15/2012 - Mate in 4

4. Rxh7#

Good puzzle, I really like the daily puzzles, new here and to chess, took me a few tries on the 2nd or 3rd move I think. They really help me think and learn what moves are effective when trying to mate king.

easy

Unique.

could have saved one step

what if 2...Nxg7 ? will someone carry it forward?

CHESSSMANNN wrote:

what if 2...Nxg7 ? will someone carry it forward?

They already did earlier in the thread.  Read it.

The queen takes the rook's place at h7.

I don't understand why the black knight goes g5 instead of f4 capturing the white queen. If the white rook then moves g8 putting the king in check, the rook on c8 takes the white rook avoiding check mate.

Lastly, this checkmate is not forced if black would have simply thought about its actions.

jasonsammons wrote:

I don't understand why the black knight goes g5 instead of f4 capturing the white queen. If the white rook then moves g8 putting the king in check, the rook on c8 takes the white rook avoiding check mate.

Lastly, this checkmate is not forced if black would have simply thought about its actions.

You're an idiot, and obviously haven't been paying attention.

You know that fourth move by the rook?  Yeah.. you just did nothing to prevent it and allowed it on move three.

Done. =]

there was also a mate in 5 but same story

blempka wrote:

I got it but why doesn't black take the rook?  It still delays the unavoidable mate... but I just think it makes more sense to take the rook... tell me if I am wrong =p

TempterMan wrote:
blempka wrote:

I got it but why doesn't black take the rook?  It still delays the unavoidable mate... but I just think it makes more sense to take the rook... tell me if I am wrong =p

Normally in the puzzles, black (some cases white) can defend different ways and for each response there's a solution to mate in the proposed number of moves, but the author of the puzzle or the one who post it has to choose one of them, because normally he post just one solution!

glob wrote:
Splane wrote:

I think there is a second solution, starting with 1. Nh6+ Kh8  2. Qf7 threatening 3. Qg8+ and 4. Nf7#.

i also thought so. but 2....Ng5 requires 1 additional move (Rxg5). anyways... riddles where pretty much every move is winning in one way or another are kind of lame, and besides, why does it always have to be mate? there are so many other interesting puzzles if one allows for combinations that just win material, etc...

On 1. Nh6+ Kh8 2. Qxf7 it does look like 2...Ng5 prevents mate in four in addition to 2...g6.  On 2...Ng5 3. Rxg5 Bd4 there is no mate in four.  3...Bd4 is the only move which prevents it.

How did all those pieces get in the corner?

that was stupid and unrealistic

Splane wrote:

I think there is a second solution, starting with 1. Nh6+ Kh8  2. Qf7 threatening 3. Qg8+ and 4. Nf7#.

thnks 4 d post

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I guess I am blind. Why doesn't black take the Queen after RXP

good one..

chuckeycharles wrote:

I guess I am blind. Why doesn't black take the Queen after RXP

Because rook will checkmate Rh7 in the next move!