You're meant to figure out why Black is now facing perpetual check. (If the King goes to h6, White can check forever on the h and g files. If to h8 or g8, White plays Rf8+, then Rf7+ and so on.)
Actually its mate pretty quick if black takes the kh8 option.
If 1. Rd4 then 1...Rxf2+ either checkmates or at least wins a bishop for black. If after 1...Rxf2+ 2. Kxf2 then 2...Re2+ 3. Kg1 Qe3+ 4. Kh1 Qxf3+ 5. Kg1 Qg2#. If after 1...Rxf2+ 2. Kg1 then at the very least 2...Rf1+ 3. Qxf1 Qxd4+ wins a bishop for black. Please feel free to correct me if I miscalculated or improve or expand on the second line.
Excellent analysis Bryan!! Here is a picture for those that didn't follow.
What I would add is that after 1...Rxf2 2. Kg1
then 2..Rg2+ 3. Kh1 Qxf3 follows, with threats of discovered check (Rxg3+ followed by Qg2# come to mind) and also Ree2 still, should reinforcements be needed. If White's queen ever leaves the back rank, then Re1# is easy. White can get in a few courtesy checks on Black's King, but White will soon fall.
Thank you. I saw 1. Rd4 Rxf2+ 2. Kg1 Rg2+ 3. Kh1 Qxf3 and suspected it was crushing for black but did not feel like analyzing the courtesy checks to see that there was indeed no perpetual check or even a checkmate for white.
Also any effort by white to challenge the black queen also fails, mainly due to the threat of double check. For example 4. Rf4 allows 4...Rh2+ (double check) 5. Kxh2 Re2+ 6. Kg1 Qg2#.
You're meant to figure out why Black is now facing perpetual check. (If the King goes to h6, White can check forever on the h and g files. If to h8 or g8, White plays Rf8+, then Rf7+ and so on.)
You should implement a slashdot style moderation system for posts, or at least edit them so that there is actually some chess related material in the thread. I am getting sick of seeing indians writing 'first!'.
why no more after rook takes pawn?
You're meant to figure out why Black is now facing perpetual check. (If the King goes to h6, White can check forever on the h and g files. If to h8 or g8, White plays Rf8+, then Rf7+ and so on.)
Actually its mate pretty quick if black takes the kh8 option.
You must mean the Kh6 option.
ok
In your red lines white can just play 4. Qxd3 as 3...Re4+ is a discovered check but not a double check so the white king doesn't have to move.
Nice puzzle.
nice
Going for a draw does not often enter my mind with so many pieces still in play.
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There so much that could be done without a draw- Not very good answer for this one- Sorry
If 1. Rd4 then 1...Rxf2+ either checkmates or at least wins a bishop for black. If after 1...Rxf2+ 2. Kxf2 then 2...Re2+ 3. Kg1 Qe3+ 4. Kh1 Qxf3+ 5. Kg1 Qg2#. If after 1...Rxf2+ 2. Kg1 then at the very least 2...Rf1+ 3. Qxf1 Qxd4+ wins a bishop for black. Please feel free to correct me if I miscalculated or improve or expand on the second line.
Excellent analysis Bryan!! Here is a picture for those that didn't follow.
What I would add is that after 1...Rxf2 2. Kg1
then 2..Rg2+ 3. Kh1 Qxf3 follows, with threats of discovered check (Rxg3+ followed by Qg2# come to mind) and also Ree2 still, should reinforcements be needed. If White's queen ever leaves the back rank, then Re1# is easy. White can get in a few courtesy checks on Black's King, but White will soon fall.
Thank you. I saw 1. Rd4 Rxf2+ 2. Kg1 Rg2+ 3. Kh1 Qxf3 and suspected it was crushing for black but did not feel like analyzing the courtesy checks to see that there was indeed no perpetual check or even a checkmate for white.
Also any effort by white to challenge the black queen also fails, mainly due to the threat of double check. For example 4. Rf4 allows 4...Rh2+ (double check) 5. Kxh2 Re2+ 6. Kg1 Qg2#.
why no more after rook takes pawn?
You're meant to figure out why Black is now facing perpetual check. (If the King goes to h6, White can check forever on the h and g files. If to h8 or g8, White plays Rf8+, then Rf7+ and so on.)
Thank you Gil. That one had me stumped.
nice
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if black doesn't accept the draw with Kh6, it follows a simple mate
i dont get it. What draw? kh6 is mate in a few moves.
first!
if black doesn't accept the draw with Kh6, it follows a simple mate
i dont get it. What draw? kh6 is mate in a few moves.
Yes. If black doesn't accept the draw and plays Kh6 then there is a mate.
first!
if black doesn't accept the draw with Kh6, it follows a simple mate
i dont get it. What draw? kh6 is mate in a few moves.
Yes. If black doesn't accept the draw and plays Kh6 then there is a mate.
Yeah, I get it now, it was just my poor interpretation skills in english. My bad ^^.
You should implement a slashdot style moderation system for posts, or at least edit them so that there is actually some chess related material in the thread. I am getting sick of seeing indians writing 'first!'.
sunday? o.o
i didn't understood, why would white accept draw ?