4/19/2012 - Sucker Punch

tanmay_chakrabarti

good one indeed.

mason286

har har har

stephen_33

Quite good puzzle made better by an interesting thread. I had trouble finding the first move for a little while & considered Qxc6 but then saw the threat from d4 & realised it was no good: So why some people propose it as a valid alternative is beyond me - the given solution is a forced mate in 4. I don't see how you can improve on that unless you can find one in 3 !

'slowhare', I think you found yourself having the wrong argument & with the wrong opponent on this one - 'ndskykng' always defends his corner well & that's no bad thing.

And by the way, I think that in your longer solution (post #151) you may have missed a quicker mate at move 16:  Try Rxa7#.

carlosmadura

good

Dramaticpiece

easy. but i never thought about back rank like that before!

chessica

controvercial!

ndskykng
stephen_33 wrote:

'slowhare', I think you found yourself having the wrong argument & with the wrong opponent on this one - 'ndskykng' always defends his corner well & that's no bad thing.

And by the way, I think that in your longer solution (post #151) you may have missed a quicker mate at move 16:  Try Rxa7#.

Appreciate that Stephen.  That's all I was trying to get across to slow... that his alternative wasn't a move that works also, not like a mate-in-4.  It never should have escalated like that.

Good eye on move 16.  I never calculated that far cause I saw the pressure building on that back rank by queen+rook, I knew I was losing a rook anyway and felt I shouldn't waste an escape move and should take a pawn down with me.  But yeah, if it got there, then 16. Rxa7# (or 16. Qxa7#) would have worked.  Nice catch.

mathteacher

Another queen sac for da chess daddy mac. :)

wyh2013

it was okay

vinupradeep2580

Lose to Win . A prefect game!!!!

slowhare
stephen_33 wrote:

Quite good puzzle made better by an interesting thread. I had trouble finding the first move for a little while & considered Qxc6 but then saw the threat from d4 & realised it was no good: So why some people propose it as a valid alternative is beyond me - the given solution is a forced mate in 4. I don't see how you can improve on that unless you can find one in 3 !

'slowhare', I think you found yourself having the wrong argument & with the wrong opponent on this one - 'ndskykng' always defends his corner well & that's no bad thing.

And by the way, I think that in your longer solution (post #151) you may have missed a quicker mate at move 16:  Try Rxa7#.

I have no problem with skyking defending his corner, although he misread my intention and comes off condescending as usual. I solved the puzzle right off, but saw another interesting possibility when analyizing it and pointed it out on page one. Never did I say it was a better solution and even showed the queens only way out. Why not make a play like that in a game when your winning chance is assured and the possibility that your opponent will not see their only way of survival or resign. Skyking likes the banter and I just keep playing his tune for my own fun.

ndskykng
slowhare wrote:
Why not make a play like that in a game when your winning chance is assured and the possibility that your opponent will not see their only way of survival or resign.

Why not make a play like that (1. Qe6+) in a game when your winning chance (mate-in-4) is assured and the possibility that your opponent will not see their only way of survival (cause it doesn't exist) or resign (because mate is coming in four).

So much better when you make my point for me.

rick1234573

not as bad as yesterday

slowhare
ndskykng wrote:
slowhare wrote:
Why not make a play like that in a game when your winning chance is assured and the possibility that your opponent will not see their only way of survival or resign.

 

So much better when you make my point for me.

Right on key - I love it!

Sure wish we could play a game.

Goatllama

I totally thought the queen was safe when I moved it....... either way it was the right move. Tongue out

Cubeseeker

nice and easy!

ndskykng
slowhare wrote:
Right on key - I love it!

Sure wish we could play a game.

Yeah right on key.  I'm not going to sit there while you front like I misread your intention that you thought your move was just as effective as the solution.

slowhare wrote:

Qxc6 works too, only move for black is Qxd4+ followed by being wiped out.

slowhare wrote:
Said "works too", never said mate in 4, and black will be wiped out.
slowhare wrote:

Na, it ends pretty easy from there. +back up the c file and domination is there.

It's pretty clear you thought that move was just as effective, and would immediately slaughter Black afterward.  I already know I'm a jackass, I make no secret of it, and everyone regular on the threads knows my style.  But I only do it to idiotic posts like yours. Awhile back someone came up with an extremely viable mate-in-5 alternative to the puzzle solution, and backed it up with appropriate analysis.  Those arguments are extremely well thought out and earn respect, not this 'hold on to my original idea despite all evidence shown to the contrary' approach that you take.

FYI, I don't like the banter, otherwise I never would have blocked you.  But you're right, I do feel the need to say something if you're going to pretend your intentions were different with your first post.  After awhile though, you stopped reasoning like an adult and just got stubborn and pissy cause it wasn't the immediate wiping out you thought it was.  Those banters are never fun for both parties involved.  

Post whatever you want after this, I've already said it never should have escalated to the point it has, and just wanted it to stop there, but you have this incessant need to reignite the flames.  I'll just let you since I already know you won't listen to reason, Stephen made a great point and still you hold on to your beliefs.  Plus you already admitted that you do this only cause it's fun for you.  It's not fun for me, you're a petty man.  You take care and have a great night.

slowhare

How many times do I have to tell you I never said it was a better solution. You go on believing you are always right and be condescending to support your superiority complex. Hell you sent me 5 or 6 private messages and blocked me so you didn't have hear a reply. Talk about petty.

Defensor

Pretty combination. Easy to find.

Zalmeth

sweet