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6/19/2017 - Rudolf L`Hermet vs Hagemann, Magdeburg 1888

  • #201
    bestperson wrote:

    Mate in 2

     ALWAYS WORKS AGAINST GROUPS OF GMs!!!!!! THEY'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING!!!!!! (I know this from experience).

     

  • #202

    I would have expected something destructive. The bishop moves seemed weeaaaaaaaaaak

  • #203

    Strong moves!!

  • #204

    Once again, why not Bg5 Qe8 Bh6? Then after ...g6 white wins the rook, whereas if it was on f6, it would not win the rook

  • #205
    Barnowl16 wrote:

    Once again, why not Bg5 Qe8 Bh6? Then after ...g6 white wins the rook, whereas if it was on f6, it would not win the rook

    Yeah, Bh6 was my move too.   It looks better than Bf6 to me.  I think this puzzle has a flawed solution.  

  • #206

    COOL

     

     

  • #207

    vtkvtyvtykgyvtftkvtktktcrttvibghybkgbk

  • #208
    JeffGreen333 wrote:
    Barnowl16 wrote:

    Once again, why not Bg5 Qe8 Bh6? Then after ...g6 white wins the rook, whereas if it was on f6, it would not win the rook

    Yeah, Bh6 was my move too.   It looks better than Bf6 to me.  I think this puzzle has a flawed solution.  

    2. Bf6 is much stronger because it attacks the h8 square from f6 and it doesn't block the h-file for white's rook on h1.  Both are essential to the success of the mating attack that develops from the many lines coming from 2. Bf6.  There will be no successful mating attack after 2. Bh6, and which is more important, the win of an exchange or the capturing of your opponent's king?

  • #209
    BryanCFB wrote:
    JeffGreen333 wrote:
    Barnowl16 wrote:

    Once again, why not Bg5 Qe8 Bh6? Then after ...g6 white wins the rook, whereas if it was on f6, it would not win the rook

    Yeah, Bh6 was my move too.   It looks better than Bf6 to me.  I think this puzzle has a flawed solution.  

    2. Bf6 is much stronger because it attacks the h8 square from f6 and it doesn't block the h-file for white's rook on h1.  Both are essential to the success of the mating attack that develops from the many lines coming from 2. Bf6.  There will be no successful mating attack after 2. Bh6, and which is more important, the win of an exchange or the capturing of your opponent's king?

    Yeah, ok.   I see it now.   I saw that I could win the exchange, but I didn't see the mate.  Thanks, Bryan.  

  • #210

    nice one

  • #211

    This puzzle has generated a great response.  I managed to figure out the bishop move.   White Queen well positioned.  I would rather be playing white then black in this game.   Way  back in 1888 I expect that white won.

  • #212

    Wouldnt pawn h6 be better? And then an imminent checkmate with the queen.

     

  • #213

    Wouldnt pawn h6 be better? And then an imminent checkmate with the queen.

     

  • #214
    XKeeper13KH wrote:

    Wouldnt pawn h6 be better? And then an imminent checkmate with the queen.

     

    I think white looks better after 1. h6, but the puzzle line is preferable because white can quickly open the h-file with the pawn on h5 if black plays 2...g6 and open the h-file as well as caputure the knight if black tries 2...Ng6.  And if 1. h6 then black should be safe enough for now after 1...g6.

  • #215
    BryanCFB wrote:
    XKeeper13KH wrote:

    Wouldnt pawn h6 be better? And then an imminent checkmate with the queen.

     

    I think white looks better after 1. h6, but the puzzle line is preferable because white can quickly open the h-file with the pawn on h5 if black plays 2...g6 and open the h-file as well as caputure the knight if black tries 2...Ng6.  And if 1. h6 then black should be safe enough for now after 1...g6.

    Oh I see

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