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# 6/4/2012 - Mate in 4

• #141

it s a time pass

• #142

hmm:)

• #143

nice & sweet

• #144
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• #145
evranis wrote:

Why not qxd4 or nxd4 for the second move of the blacks? With a queen sacrifice, the mat can't happend, right? (2.qxd4 3be3 3qxe4!)

cause 3. f4#

• #146

Pretty cool.

• #147

Thanks for the lesson!  Chess.com is the best.

• #148

Nice!  And no, a queen sacrifice for black does not avoid mate, in fact it allows white to get mate in three instead!

• #149

Nice Puzzle.

• #150

ervanis qxd4 and nxd4 result in f4++

• #151

just shows how hard it is to checkmate without queen or rooks

• #152
evranis wrote:

Why not qxd4 or nxd4 for the second move of the blacks? With a queen sacrifice, the mat can't happend, right? (2.qxd4 3be3 3qxe4!)

@evranis... after qxd4 or nxd4, it is an immediate mate with f4!

• #153

evranis wrote:

Why not qxd4 or nxd4 for the second move of the blacks? With a queen sacrifice, the mat can't happend, right? (2.qxd4 3be3 3qxe4!)

Because in either of those situations either the Queen or the Knight would be blocking the King's exit onto d4 when the f file pawn moves up to f4 for a checkmate.  Basically it would be a mate in 3 rather than in 4 if you committed to any of the moves you proposed.

• #154

If Black takes d4 with Q or N then f4 is only a sooner mate... It was nice. I remember a match which I thought I owned my opponents Q but it was trouble checkmate for me.

• #155

easy

• #156

beautiful

• #157

it took me a short while to see why N or Q can't take pawn on d4

• #158

Nice

• #159

sick

• #160

that proves that you don't need a quenn to win a game.

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