7/4/2014 - Bronstein-Mikenas 1965


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #201

    BryanCFB

    Clemdon wrote:

    OR beautiful SACRIFICE

    1.Q-e8+   Rxe8

    2.Rxe8    Q-f8 (forced)

    3.Rxf8#

    Forced isn't next to 1...Rxe8 for a reason.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #202

    Nielzzoz

    Andique wrote:
     

    Nice analysis Andique all valid points.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #203

    colinsaul

    Bronstein is one of the great grandmasters. He would not miss Clemdon's sarcifice. Seeing what he saw is what makes the difference between higher and lower ratings.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #204

    Lateriflora

    JakeTheHunter wrote:
     

    This move set is much better.

    No Jake.  After Qe8 then Black goes Qf8 and there is no mate.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #205

    manishghop

    very easy..

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #206

    deepak21071974

    hmm :)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #207

    AnishBhargava

    nice

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #208

    Juncedan

    Much too complicated. 1. Qe8+  Rxe8; 2. Rxe8+ Qf8; 3. Rxf8#

    Nice and easy

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #209

    BryanCFB

    Juncedan wrote:

    Much too complicated. 1. Qe8+  Rxe8; 2. Rxe8+ Qf8; 3. Rxf8#

    Nice and easy

    But how does white proceed after 1...Qf8?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #210

    ripjaw878

    1st move was hard

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #211

    ripjaw878

    11th page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #212

    Nine_fires

    Last page/comment? :)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #213

    ShaPe1991

    what about 1.Qe8+ Rxe8 2.Rxe8+ Qf8 3.Rxf8#  that seems right?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #214

    Nine_fires

    Awww...maybe it would be last page NOW! ;)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #215

    Nielzzoz

    jhorlock wrote:

    I didn't get the first move.  

    Just wondering experts: Is black forced to take the rook?  I can't see a much better option, but could he for example move g6?

    We have a question here is black forced to play a6 take the white rook ,what a bout playing g6 or even g5 ,will it safe the king ?? some one to answer please and pay attention ::::yes black will loose a rook but will safe his king .

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #216

    BryanCFB

    ShaPe1991 wrote:

    what about 1.Qe8+ Rxe8 2.Rxe8+ Qf8 3.Rxf8#  that seems right?

    1...Qf8 first, and black defends.  Just because material is offered doesn't mean it has to be accepted.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #217

    BryanCFB

    anman88 wrote:

    ? but there is a easier more forcing way i dont get it. back Qe8 check exploits blacks back rank problems and wins straight away 

    Check the post above yours.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #218

    KonVictor

    "Because, as others have mentioned, black would instead respond to Qe8+ with Qf8 and the checkmate has been foiled. There's no good reason for black to respond with Rxe8, especially if black sees the checkmate coming, which they would."

     

    but even with that its whites turn queen and rooks are gone for the black because is forcing a check that or sacerficing a major piece. yes its a good defense but white still be dominating the game regardless.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #219

    arvin3xhu

    yay


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