King and pawn endgame

rychessmaster1
Black to move
Can white win or is it a draw
I dont know
-_-

dandelionendstudent

white could win 

dandelionendstudent

Those doubled pawns

sneezingdino
MISTER_McCHESS wrote:

I'd estimate +.85 for white pre-engine analysis.

wow! a 1170 predicts the correct analysis! wow!

rychessmaster1
MISTER_McCHESS wrote:

I'd estimate +.85 for white pre-engine analysis.

About right

But .85 is often won in king and pawn since engines don’t understand king and pawn endings

I have checked engine eval but it’s useless

 

TheGreekGifter

looks like a draw to me but idk

rychessmaster1

I haven’t looked at it very deep yet

But considering the engine eval

I can guess how it ends 

Either A. The engine sucks and will say whites winning in like 3 moves

Or B. White gets a pawn up queen ending that’s drawn with perfect play 

RALRAL3333

if the h pawns were not doubled then draw, but since they are I think white wins.

How about if white has no h pawn. Then can white still win? thats the question I have

WigglyMuffinCow

White wins

rychessmaster1

Whites plan is probably to give up e5 for h6 and h7

Black has couple counterideas

A. Go to g6 guard and make your pawn moves last longer

B. Take e5 and try for a passed d pawn

C. Play h5 and h6 to try and stop white

 

rychessmaster1
RALRAL3333 wrote:

if the h pawns were not doubled then draw, but since they are I think white wins.

How about if white has no h pawn. Then can white still win? thats the question I have

White would be down a pawn without the h pawn lol

He would probably be lucky to draw in that case 

Benjibass

White wins?

rebus2k

draw

dandelionendstudent

I think white will win.

 

msd238

Becaz of this stupid forum that I checked, I just blundered after returning here 

https://www.chess.com/live#g=5772854806

Benjibass

no

Benjibass

Black wins

RALRAL3333
rychessmaster1 wrote:
RALRAL3333 wrote:

if the h pawns were not doubled then draw, but since they are I think white wins.

How about if white has no h pawn. Then can white still win? thats the question I have

White would be down a pawn without the h pawn lol

He would probably be lucky to draw in that case 

wouldn't white have the same plan though and I feel its not really like 1 pawn down because black has doubled pawns. I think white should comfortably draw then not be lucky to draw idk

ajl721

White's better here despite the doubled pawns. White's pieces are more active and open.

Benjibass

hmm