NEVER SAW MY ENDGAME REPETITION DRAW

DENVERHIGH

Hi Guys. I was playing black on this game.

on move 4. ...  ND4

I offered him a swindle, the pawn on E5. But he didn't take it. He moved the knight and attacked my bishop which I retreated to B6.

On move 6.

He took the pawn on E5. He fell for it. i brought my Queen out!

On move 11. 

I offered him a knight on C2.

I was sure I was going to get a win with a queen mate on F2 because I had a bishop on B6. I thought Rouel would take the knight I offered him. But he didn't he took my bishop and I could not mate him.

I was down two pieces no. So I castled and I thought I could make it a draw by repetition. I didn't know how to ask for the draw and I posted the question.

I tried to win by him make some blunders and me taking  his queen or the Rook. But he didn't cooperate.

On move 21.

He moved to G!. Hah . . Got him now

Finally I saw the repetition draw that was forced to happen. 

IT WOULD TAKE ME FIVE CHECKS.. E1+ .. H4+ .. E1 .. H4+ E1+

I first check on E1+ and put the other moves in the conditional feature only to the third check on E1+  so when it was my turn I would press the DRAW button and see how it worked.

But it was not to be. When I checked the third time on the conditional the draw was automatic and I never got to press the button.

Now I have to wait until I get another draw on purpose.

Here is the game.  It's short only 25 moves. I enjoy when I bring out the Queen early and attack.  Hope you like it.



DENVERHIGH

                                    THANKS FOR THE GAME ROULE.

MuhammadAreez10

You adopted an attack at all costs strategy which I would not recommend. You wouldn't have drew had he not moved his king to the g-file.

DENVERHIGH
MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

You adopted an attack at all costs strategy which I would not recommend. You

wouldn't have drew had he not moved his king to the g-file.

I was counting on him making a little mistake. He had avoided several offers. Beside I wanted a draw. To see how the draw by repeat was implimented. Thanks for the comment.

MuhammadAreez10

I understand it now. I guess you played this game for nothing but drawing by repetition. I also had a game drawn by such a method.

DENVERHIGH

No not at all, I wanted a win for the group and my rating would go up 15. As the game progress I saw a chance that I woul lose, A loss would have meant dropping 14 rating point.

Then I saw In the game I could draw and gain 1 rating point. He was stuck in that corner and I was only attacking with my queen.

Besides he was up two pieces and if I was him i would have tried to swap down and he would have had an easy end game.

Eseles
DENVERHIGH wrote:

I first check on E1+ and put the other moves in the conditional feature only to the third check on E1+  so when it was my turn I would press the DRAW button and see how it worked.

But it was not to be. When I checked the third time on the conditional the draw was automatic and I never got to press the button.

Now I have to wait until I get another draw on purpose.

I think that either your opponent claimed the draw before you could do it, or the conditional moves screwed something up and it happened automatically.

Why don't you ask Roule if s/he pushed the "clain draw" button?

slaca

You didn't have to click the draw button, because your opponent did. That's why it looks that was automatic. It wasn't, your opponent pressed draw.

DENVERHIGH

slaca wrote:

You didn't have to click the draw button, because your opponent did. That's why it looks that was automatic. It wasn't, your opponent pressed draw.

I sent a message to ROULE.

DENVER

DENVERHIGH

Okay Guys

My opponent pressed draw alert when he got to the third repeat. Mystery solved.

Eseles
DENVERHIGH wrote:

 draw alert.

 

that's a mystery to me Laughing

hpmobil

Is there bo moderator? This should be moved out of endgame

DENVERHIGH
titust wrote:

What kind of move is Nxc2? Plus Bd7 is just winning. Your attack should've failed with 16. Be3 and if Qh3+, simply Qg2 1-0

Nxc2 I wanted him to take the Knight, I had a mate with Qf2++ mate. I actually forgot that he could take the Bishop on B7. It was a blunder on my part.

I have to agree with you. He simply did not make Qg2 Nor Be3 moves.

He could have swap queens and be ahead in the end game.

                                                 

DENVERHIGH

firefly2611 wrote:

whta is that sign after you write a comment it is annoying

Don't read it! You are annoying so now you are blocked.

DENVER

Daybreak57

It's a nice continuation, but the situation wasn't forced.  I know in real chess everybody doesn't play perfectly and I know someone who play's kind of like you where their plan is more fluid in nature but not really thought out and I'm telling you that's a good skill to experiment with on occasion, however, I wouldn't recommend gambling with those pawn sacrifices like that on games that matter.  Those opening traps only work on the psychological level, as your opponent thinks he's going to win easily because he can gain a pawn then bam he finds out you tricked him!  However, those type of sacrifices leave your opponent with a lot of counter-play.  Do those types of things in speed chess, but not in a long game, or tournament.  Was it a real tournament?  Even though you got the result you desired, I think, had your opponent played the best moves, you would have lost, even if he did snatch that pawn.  Of course I do not know your opponent, but I've analysed positions with this type of setup and found that being a knight down but up a couple pawns and having your opponents king not castled, you could theoretically be in really good shape as white, even if you succumb to taking the bait.  

In conclusion, that sacrifice is nice little trick, but white is still in the game and has compensation for the loss of a piece, and thus has counter-play.  It's a nice thing to do for fun just to see what will come out of it, but it's a gamble if you do it for an important game like I think you did.  I guess you won that gamble!  Congrats to you, but as I said, you shouldn't rely on unclear tactics like this to win.  I know someone who plays like you.  He rely's on his opponents making mistakes to win after a few piece sacs. (I think he learned that habit from playing against a lot of people lower rated than he was) In his mind he isn't relying on anything, he is just has the abstract idea of getting his opponents king out in the open by sacing a few minor pieces, and then trying to checkmate.  He doesn't think his plans through, and eventually loses if his opponent has enough time to think.  Your idea wasn't really abstract.  You probably saw that opening trap somewhere and decided to use it here, which is fine, but I don't think the win is clear cut for black even if white does decide to be initially greedy and take the pawn.  The only reason why most people lose to this opening is because they try to save the knight, but the knight is gone, with the realization that it's best to let the knight die, and take another pawn, making your opponent lose his chance to castle, gives white some counterplay, and you could read books on the way the game will turn out if both people follow the book moves, but we all know that doesn't happen most of the time in real games...  But oh well, like I said, I know someone who plays like you.  Don't get me wrong he is a good player, like you are, but, I think both of you can be better, if you limit the times you do things like that for times when the game doesn't really matter, when you are playing just for fun.

If you where thinking on your feet I'd say that was a good gamble, even though it was a gamble, because I know under time pressure things can be tough, as I play 3 minute blitz, sometimes 1 minute...  Not very good at either but I do it a lot none the less.  Time pressure asside, not a clear cut win or draw, as the position wasn't forced, but oh well you seemed to analyse your opponent and must have figured out that this type of thing would work on him, props to you if that is the case. Part of chess is knowing what to do based on what you know about your opponent.  Happy chess playing!!  We should play an online game!!

DENVERHIGH

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DENVERHIGH

@Daybreak 57

Thanks for reading and the narrative evaluation of the game. . . You are correct that i was depending on him to blunder which was foolish to do. . .

I've gone over the game several times to see where i would have gone if i where in his shoes . . . 

DENVER

 

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