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• #21

The only first move that wins is 1.Kd5

• #22

Yeah, I know Kd5 is the first move. g5 draws.

• #23

I think I got it

• #24

1.g5 is stupid- Black will just move the king back and forth without altering the pawn structure.

White has to plant a pawn at f6 to win, and Black can't prevent this (an eventual 1...f5 is answered by g4-g5).

So, 1,Kd5 is the only serious move, and Black apparently can't defend to the simple plan of bringing the king to e7/e8, and pushing f4-f5. There is only one detail: after a pawn swap at f5 white must have the opposition- but this is rather easy to arrange, the corresponding squares are e8/g7 and e7/g8.

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• #27
pfren wrote:

1.g5 is stupid- Black will just move the king back and forth without altering the pawn structure.

White has to plant a pawn at f6 to win, and Black can't prevent this (an eventual 1...f5 is answered by g4-g5).

So, 1,Kd5 is the only serious move, and Black apparently can't defend to the simple plan of bringing the king to e7/e8, and pushing f4-f5. There is only one detail: after a pawn swap at f5 white must have the opposition- but this is rather easy to arrange, the corresponding squares are e8/g7 and e7/g8.

I am glad to have an IM explain the position in detail. This all makes sense! I will try it out soon. Thank you, Mr. Frendzas!

• #28
1...g5?? throws away a half-point. Black has a clever continuation.

• #29
riuryK έγραψε:
1...g5?? throws away a half-point. Black has a clever continuation.

He also has four stupid continuations: 3...Kd7/d8/e8/f8 - and white cannot make any progress.

• #30
So yeah it’s a draw
• #31

1. Kd Kf6 2. Kd6 Kg7 3. Ke7 Kg84. Ke8 Kg7 5. Ke7 f6 6. g5 fxg5 7. fxg5Kh8 8. Kf7 Kh7 9. Kf6 Kh8 10. Kxg6Kg8 11. Kh6 Kf7 12. Kh7 Ke7 13. g6Kd6 14. g7 Kc5 15. g8=Q

• #32

I won against engine so, not a draw.

• #33

I tried it partly on my own, partly from the computer feedback I got if I blundered or made a mistake, although I kept playing through my inaccuracies and eventually I won. My basic idea was to approach black's pawns at the same time as I tried to draw their king away, then when I finally got the black king far enough I took the f7 pawn from behind/above. But even after having taken both of black pawns, and having promoted my g-pawn, it was hard to drive the king to the edge and give mate. Of course, I'm just a beginner so it might just be me. What I was sure of was that I had to target black's f7 pawn first and, when it came to my own pawns, support first pawn with pawn and king then leave the supporting pawn behind and keep going pawn and king together, letting the black king deal with my forgotten pawn. All this may be wrong, or too simple to others, though, but as the OP wanted "human" feedback, I thought I'd give mine. I hope it helps in some way.

• #34

Kd5

Kh6

Ke5

Kg7

Kd6

Kh8

Kd7

Kh7

Kd8

Kg7

Ke8

Kf6

Kf8

Ke6

Kg7

Ke7

f5

gxf5

gxf5

f6

• #35

g5 is a stupid move. First king, next pawns xD

• #36

we can make active king on e7 and next we can push f pawn

1-0

• #37

A very complicated one if you ask me!

This shows the importance of endgame knowledge. If you had this in a tournament, you may simply surrender the draw, considering the 2 vs. 2 pawn battle. Imagine splitting the point and realizing you had the win and you had no idea!

• #38

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