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tygxc

#1

"I think Ruy Lopez is passive and boring." ++ No, it is neither passive, nor boring
"And others say it's aggressive." ++ That is right: the most aggresive players in history have played it: Bronstein, Tal, Fischer, Kasparov

"Can you please say me what makes Ruy Lopez aggressive?" White immediately goes for O-O and Re1 and usually gets an attack against the black king.

"Any, lines, tactics, strategy, etc. etc. etc...." Ruy Lopez was the most played and the most successful opening at the recent Yekaterinburg Candidates' Tournament. Played in 10 games with 4 white wins, 6 draws and not a single white loss. I suggest you study the 4 won games.

For comparison: Italian was played 3 times: 1 draw, 2 losses for white and not a single white win.

JackRoach
tygxc wrote:

#1

"I think Ruy Lopez is passive and boring." ++ No, it is neither passive, nor boring
"And others say it's aggressive." ++ That is right: the most aggresive players in history have played it: Bronstein, Tal, Fischer, Kasparov

"Can you please say me what makes Ruy Lopez aggressive?" White immediately goes for O-O and Re1 and usually gets an attack against the black king.

"Any, lines, tactics, strategy, etc. etc. etc...." Ruy Lopez was the most played and the most successful opening at the recent Yekaterinburg Candidates' Tournament. Played in 10 games with 4 white wins, 6 draws and not a single white loss. I suggest you study the 4 won games.

For comparison: Italian was played 3 times: 1 draw, 2 losses for white and not a single white win.

That's such a small sample size, so I don't think it's very accurate.

tygxc

#62

8 of the best players on the planet, double round robin = 14 rounds x 4 games = 56 games. Ruy Lopez was both most played and most successful. Italian was less played and far less successful.

 

DaBabysBurner

I wouldn't really call the Ruy Lopez aggressive, but I'd more say it's direct. 

AussieRookie

Lopez is a nice guy. My neighbour Ruy lives in a Castle surrounded by a bRook and is the Knightclub King.

wollyhood
JackRoach wrote:
Taha1789 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing yazdı:

someone please tell me what I did besides agree with this guy that f6 was a bad move

...

I thought you just saying where is the f6 move there 

Bruh. Don't be a pedestrian.

DaBaby wasn't at all trolling.

I think you mean don't BE pedestrian. Actual pedestrians rule.

anushagoud32
Are there any online books
wollyhood
tygxc wrote:

#1

"I think Ruy Lopez is passive and boring." ++ No, it is neither passive, nor boring
"And others say it's aggressive." ++ That is right: the most aggresive players in history have played it: Bronstein, Tal, Fischer, Kasparov

"Can you please say me what makes Ruy Lopez aggressive?" White immediately goes for O-O and Re1 and usually gets an attack against the black king.

"Any, lines, tactics, strategy, etc. etc. etc...." Ruy Lopez was the most played and the most successful opening at the recent Yekaterinburg Candidates' Tournament. Played in 10 games with 4 white wins, 6 draws and not a single white loss. I suggest you study the 4 won games.

For comparison: Italian was played 3 times: 1 draw, 2 losses for white and not a single white win.

Thank you for this summarizing rebuttal, seems extremely well qualified.

B1ZMARK
Yosef115 wrote:

I think Ruy Lopez is passive and boring. And others say it's aggressive. Can you please say me what makes Ruy Lopez aggressive? Any, lines, tactics, strategy, etc. etc. etc.... 

All comments welcome

imo kinda boring

B1ZMARK
tygxc wrote:

#1

"I think Ruy Lopez is passive and boring." ++ No, it is neither passive, nor boring
"And others say it's aggressive." ++ That is right: the most aggresive players in history have played it: Bronstein, Tal, Fischer, Kasparov

"Can you please say me what makes Ruy Lopez aggressive?" White immediately goes for O-O and Re1 and usually gets an attack against the black king.

"Any, lines, tactics, strategy, etc. etc. etc...." Ruy Lopez was the most played and the most successful opening at the recent Yekaterinburg Candidates' Tournament. Played in 10 games with 4 white wins, 6 draws and not a single white loss. I suggest you study the 4 won games.

For comparison: Italian was played 3 times: 1 draw, 2 losses for white and not a single white win.

#1. It is not passive and is probably not boring that is correct, but the logic of "many strong attacking players play it" does not make it unboring or aggressive.

#2. White does not usually go Re1 and castle for an attack on the black king. I do not know where you get that notion from. White usually plays for c3 and d4 to obtain a stable positional advantage. More often than not white does not go all ham on black's king.

#3. Using a single tournament doesn't really mean anything... you could use the database to prove it, but using a single tournament is too small of a sample size.

wollyhood

The Candidates tourney is a pretty important tourney of current and global significance. What top 100 GMs refuse to play the Ruy? Would be good to hear fact based rebuttals.

B1ZMARK

I mean I could use a similar high level tournament many years ago where four grandmasters (Larson was one of them lol) play the Alekhines defense and won them all 

wollyhood

ok, so how many games in that tournament also went into the Ruy? That would be interesting.

B1ZMARK

i have no clue lol it was like some zonal in 1970s

wollyhood

ah well now it doesn't seem so relevant to this discussion. At the aforementioned Candidates, they were 8 of the best players in the world, were they not