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Daeru(White) vs. browni3141(Black) WITH KIBITZERS

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browni3141

6...d5 and 6...Ng4 seem to be the only reasonable options.

browni3141

@Hess: I have one master game with 7. Bxf7+ where black played 9...d5 and eventually won.


If you can come with a clear refutation to it then I will gladly drop the idea of 6...Ng4.

Daeru

Yes, Ng4 was the alternative I was talking about. 

And against EdwardT2's line, 10.Qf3 can be met by 10...Nxe5

browni3141

I'll play the "safe" move 6...d5

I'd better get start thinking about my next move now.

helltank

exf6(wait for it) dxc4 and we have reached the complicated Max Lange attack. 

Daeru

I don't think there is an alternative to 7.exf6. Any suggestions?

Current Position:



trysts

+1.68

Ben_Dubuque

I would take e.p. and then Re1+ or dxc7 either way, getting something for it

Daeru
Daeru wrote:

Yes I looked at those lines before with the idea of;

6...d5 7.exd6?! Qxd6 8.Re1+ Be6 9.Ng5

putting some pressure on black's position but black has the saving move 

9...Nd8! 

and white is unable to get the initiative. Black has a great game.

 

helltank

What about retreating the bishop? 

Daeru
I play 7.exf6
browni3141

7...dxc4

Daeru

Important move. 

8.Re1 or 8.fxg7 ?



Daeru

Bh6 is wrong in both variations you gave. Bg5 is better.

Daeru

 Bg5 is trying to trade the g7 pawn with the d4 pawn, and is a good-sharp weapon against an unprepared opponent (not a factor here).

If 8.fxg7 Rg8 9.Bg5 f6 you simply play 10.Bh6! and black's king is open.

If 8.fxg7 Rg8 9.Bg5 Be7 than you play 10.Re1 and the threat is to play Bxe7 followed by Qxd4


which is unstoppable. (10...Bg4 11.Bxe7 Nxe7 12.Re4! Bxf3 13.Qxf3 Rxg7 14.Qf6!)

Here is a board with the variations to understand easier.

Daeru

I play 8.fxg7



browni3141

8...Rg8 is forced of course.

Daeru

I think white should play 9.Bg5, other suggestions?

Ben_Dubuque

I like Re1 followed by Bg5

Daeru

Yes Re1+ looks just as good if not better.