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IncrediBill vs zrylam (with kibitzers)

  • #241

    I think that @stubborn_d0nkey meant to suggest Qh6 instead of "5".  If he did mean Qh5, then I wouldn't mind seeing what lines he was thinking of.

    I would agree with @stubborn_d0nkey, though, that Qh6 is the move to make.  It leaves Black with only two (realistic) choices and then I can capture the g5-pawn, while zrylam follows up by capturing my b6-pawn . . . . . and we are all even again.  Of course, my Queen and Rook are linked up nicely together, so there is a definite advantage.

    I am exploring another option, and that is to push my b-pawn up to the b7 square, and then follow that move up with the Qh6 move.  This sequence is a bit more "grey" for me to try and predict as to what @zrylam will do.  Its hard to be objective when I am playing against myself. 

    I've tried to do a couple of scenarios to see how "pushing the pawn" would work out, and for the most part I am pleased with the result.  But am I making honest moves for @zrylam or is it just wishful thinking.

    So what do I do?  The straight forward and direct move, 40.Qh6, or the unexpexted plot twist move, 40.b7.

    Here is how the game looks from White's persepective:

     

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  • #242

    I did mean Qh5, but I didnt do much analysis, the reason behind that move is that the queen also defends d1 (as well as attack the g pawn) which means the rook doesn't have to guard from mate anymore and can possibly get involved in the action sooner.

  • #243

    I'm wondering did you consider Qf8 as a reply to b7?

  • #244
    stubborn_d0nkey wrote:

    I'm wondering did you consider Qf8 as a reply to b7?

    If I played 40.b7, then I assumed that he would respond by pushing up his pawn with 40...g4.  That way my Rook would be blocked from advancing.

    Here is what I envisioned for the response of 40...Qf8



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  • #246

    I think b7 then g4 followed by Qh6 Ke5 queen trade is out due to Blacks better pawns and more centralized King, so Qg7 followed by Qf6 and then Qc7 Qd6 Rc1 and white should have little trouble with his passer

  • #247
    jetfighter13 wrote:

    I think b7 then g4 followed by Qh6 Ke5 queen trade is out due to Blacks better pawns and more centralized King, so Qg7 followed by Qf6 and then Qc7 Qd6 Rc1 and white should have little trouble with his passer

    Hello @jetfighter13,  if I understand you correctly, I think the sequence you descibed is  as follows:


    Of course, because Black's Queen is now pinned against his King, and I have a pawn about to Queen on its own, Black would have no choice but to exchange Queens and we would end up in the following position:


    I think the better response to 40...g4 would be 41.h3 instead of 41.Qh6



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  • #248
    stubborn_d0nkey wrote:

    I did mean Qh5, but I didnt do much analysis, the reason behind that move is that the queen also defends d1 (as well as attack the g pawn) which means the rook doesn't have to guard from mate anymore and can possibly get involved in the action sooner.

    Hello @stubborn_d0nkey,  I thought I would see how Qh5 worked out, and it seems to be O.K. 



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  • #249

    Seems like Qf8 is bad for black, i forgot how vulnerable hi king is

  • #250

    Why not 41. Kg2 after g4? Or am I again missing something?

  • #251
    stubborn_d0nkey wrote:

    Seems like Qf8 is bad for black, i forgot how vulnerable hi king is

    I think that, overall, White is in a very strong position.  It seems that whatever direction the game goes in, that Black is very vulnerable.

  • #252
    stubborn_d0nkey wrote:

    Why not 41. Kg2 after g4? Or am I again missing something?

    I don't know about bringing my King up to the g2 square.  He seems pretty happy to be tucked away in the corner behind a pawn.  Plus, moving to the g2 square would only block the path of my Rook.  On top of that, I would only be bringing my King closer to Black's advancing pawns.  I haven't analyzed it, but I can't see any good coming out of such a move.

  • #253

    It seems that I have narrowed my choices down to two possible moves, 40.Qh6 or 40.b7.  The Queen move seems to be the most obvious, direct and safest move to make.  Whereas, the advancing of the b7-pawn could have some hidden pitfalls that maybe I haven't fully  anticipated.

    However, between the two, I think the 40.b7 move is the most agressive because it adds the pressure on Black that the pawn is one move away from becoming a Queen.  Black is going to be forced to keep an eye on that pawn and make sure that the b8 square is always covered.

    Therefore my official move is . . . . . 40.b7



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  • #254

    I don't view bringing the king closer to the pawns as a negative, but rather a positive side. The closer the king is to the pawns the fewer moves he needs to strike at them if a queen exchange (with the b pawn still on the board) occurs. Also, after g4 I don't really see your rook going up the g-file

  • #255
    stubborn_d0nkey wrote:

    I don't view bringing the king closer to the pawns as a negative, but rather a positive side. The closer the king is to the pawns the fewer moves he needs to strike at them if a queen exchange (with the b pawn still on the board) occurs. Also, after g4 I don't really see your rook going up the g-file

    There certainly are merits to getting the King into the action.

  • #256

    My King is far too exposed at the moment and I'm going to keep dropping pawns unless I start creating threats.

    40. ...e3

     


  • #257

    Dropping pawns should't be an issue, but Black is dropping a rook after 40...e3.

  • #258

    Yeah, 41. Qh6+ wins.

  • #259

    thats what I saw

  • #260

    I assumed that @zrylam was going to push a pawn, but I thought that it would have been the g-pawn . . . . that way my Rook would be cut off from charging down that file.

    While his e-pawn does threaten my f-pawn (and also the possibility of promotion to a Queen) , it is of no concern to me at this time, because the next few moves by White are going to put Black in a continously forced situation, where Black will not have the time to advance his e-pawn.  

    Starting with the move suggested by @mattattack99 in Post #261 and confirmed by @jetfighter13 in Post #262, which is to put the Black King in check and skewer his Queen.  

    After the Queen exchange and subsequent recapture by the Black King, another check of the Black King by my Rook and the skewer of his Rook, as predicted by IM pfren in Post #260.  At this point Black will not be able to avenge his Rook because he will be forced to capture the b-pawn that is about to Queen.

    Therefore, my official move is . . . . . . 41.Qh6+


    NOTE:  I am aware that the moves I described above are not "true" skewers because the pieces being captured are of equal value, as opposed to a lesser ranked piece creating a situation where it can capture a higher ranked piece.  But because White was being put in the situation where he  is forced to leave his pieces open to an exchange, I figured that I would use a bit of poetic licence and refer to the moves as a 'skewer'.

    Also, Black does not necessarily have to follow the moves I outlined above,  but because they are the 'lesser-of-two-evils', I am pretty sure that he will have to go that route.  Of course, @zrylam is an excellent player, so he may have something up his sleeve that I did not anticipate.

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