Accepting the Queens Gambit for the first time in a graded game ever

FluffyThunderKarp

I have had some really fantastic games playing the Accepted line in friendly rapid games! In competitive play I almost always would play the Nimzo Indian defense against it. But in blitz I sometimes like to play a late kings Indian defense after the exchange in the QGA, castle, then push through on the queen's side! At the club I sometimes like to jokingly depict it's similarities to the Maginot line and the Schliefen plan, due to how you let white have all the center, and try to go around it's magnificence! xD

 

I wanted to share a game I played tonight in the under 130 tournament at our club I was playing with the Black pieces. A very odd game but allot of fun, very akin to what I described above. I made some huge mistakes and failed to convert a better endgame position.  

He is an avid Queens gambit player and a solid 130 ECF (1675 ELO) the highest player in the tournament I am about 100 ECF (1450 ELO).... I have always played the Nimzo indian defense against him in every other graded game we have ever played..... But tonight I was feeling lucky punk... I digress I would love to hear some feedback and general insults at my blunders so that I may never make the same mistakes again happy.png Please be gentle I am a QGA Virgin...that is to say I have never played it in a graded competition game before!

 

Any thoughts comments would be greatly appriciated :)

DiscipleOfKeres

First time is always rough. give 3..c5 or Nf6 a try. Not sure if 3...e6 is viable. 3...e5 and 3...b5 are a little hard to play. 4...g6 is a little inaccurate because you already have a good square for your DSB. Better was a move like 4...Nf6. I think you could have risked provoking 7.e5 with 6...Nf6. The follow up would be c5 at some point later. 8...c5 may have been better than 8...c6 because it attacks the center, and it makes way for a1 h8 diagonal tactics. I would have given 10...Bb7 a try to indirectly pressure the center, without overextending the queenside majority too early. 11...b4 was a tad unneccessary. You open up his queen rook with that move, while giving him an extra move. and you give him a free pawn. Try not to help your opponent develop. you got some form of a concession so retreat back to b7, or develop your queen's knight. Qb6 was risky because you allow white to initate tactics that work out in his favor. You are lucky that your opponent did not play 18. d6 instead of Rxa5. Somewhere when you had a winning endgame, I am pretty sure you could have inserted a rook check somewhere. Shame you blundered at the end with Kg8, when all you had to do was step the king closer to the center.

DiscipleOfKeres

whoops 18th move may not have been mistake, but 16th move for white. Better may have been b5 for white.

ArtNJ

Tell me, what do you think of your 8th move, ...c6, and having had time to reflect, what would have been better?  Same question about your 11th move, ba6.  These were bad moves, but more importantly, I feel like they were moves that an intermediate player should know not to make, so good learning moments I think.  

FluffyThunderKarp

Well first off thank you so much for taking the time to evaluate this game for me and in such great detail... You'll have to excuse the time it's taken me to get back to you as I have been away for a couple of days. Allow me to have another look at my game taking into account the advice and opinions that you have both given me, and I will get back to you both with some thoughts and answers.

FluffyThunderKarp

DiscipleOfKeres, G3 in hindsight seems like I was just half way between two ideas. I guess mainly I was partly still in nimzo indian mindset, but also having great desires to play the fianchetto... I completely agree that whilst it's not an imediate inaccuracy... There are just better moves after having already played e6, as you say... I needed to either do one or the other. I must say Nf6 worried me for the pure reason e5 but I was wrong to worry about e5 it simply puts me in a slightly better position after Nd7? if Nd5 the c5 push would lead to an isolated d pawn after first trading knight for bishop, at least I think. You make a very fair and just point about the move Ba6 and over extending... My plan was... as you probably have guessed already was to force a trade of bishops and create some breathing room for my slightly cramped queens pieces. But as you say I was probably missleading myself into beliving that this was a neccesary tactic... Rather than just directly contesting the center on the queens side with c5. Much better strategy. b4 was definitely too soon, and although it exposes his b pawn to tactics of my own. It's just too damaging to my possition over all. I hated Qb6, putting it on the same diagonal as his DSB ready to be reveal checked. Thank you for pointing that out and confirming my distaste for this move. About move 18. Me and my opponent went through this move for a bit after the game. We came to the conclusion that d6, when ever it comes may be a big problem for black...? I don't know if you could confirm this suspision.. that after d6, Nc8 seems to be the viable solution but then white simple plays Bc7 and I fear that it's very procarious for black to just leave that problem there, with no real imediate way to shift the Bishop? Especially after a move like e5. Now it looks like Black is really struggeling to control the danger of that passed d pawn!? I have ran this move through the engine... The engine states that it's all okay for black... But I fear that is Stockfish underestimating how difficult it actually is for black to play accurately enough after this danger arises, to deal with and contain the threats. On to the endgame. I am so glad you also think I was in a winning possition.. because I offered my oponnent a draw on move 23. whilst I was a pawn up and in a slightly better possition. But he refused and after the game went on to tell me that the reason he refused my draw offer was because my knights where conected in the middle of the board and I just didn't buy it to be honnest. I do wonder if after 27. h3 stopping mate the check would have allowed for me to capture the C pawn later on move 30. due to the tactic 30. Rxc6, g3 Nxh3 giving me three pawns for the knight and removing his only real threat of winning? I was under the impression that 33.Ke8 would have still not been adiquate to stop the promotion. But I was so wrong so thank you for pointing that out as well. I just got all flustered and made a bad desicion because I felt that I was loosing either way, I had plenty of time on my clock as well at this point. About b5.... I think your right it would have been a great in between move since after Nb4 no longer winning the pawn back leads to Qd2 and now the threat of d5 is once again revealed but this time with no chance of black achieving material equality. I fell that maybe Qd2 was also playable and winning after 16. ,Nxb4. Fortunately for me he accepted the trade and ended up disolving his center... I was very lucky!

ArtNJ, Honnestly C6 was just about gaining some breathing room on the queenside and hoping to break his center on the wing. I actually verbally confirmed this fact during the game as me and my opponent are very good friends outside of chess, and it was no secret that b5 was coming! I had just made a joke to him, sarcastically miming the words 'BIG CENTER!!' to him on turn 8. He laughed and went outside for a cigarete. I then played the obvious b5 and jokingly, quietly muttered to him "I just need a tiny little bit more room my friend" calling back to how he is having all of the fun with his 'BIG' center, I don't think it was too much to ask to have a few more squares available on the queen side! Whether it was a good move or not... meh, I probablly could have done better, but b5 seemed to come, at the time, with a tempo against his bishop!?
With Ba6 I had hoped again to make play on the queen side by trading my and his LSB when he played a3 I decided that I probablly still need to accept the loss of a pawn to ensure that I am not just playing 'defendy bois' all game, Again Probablly unnecissary unjustified paranoia when i'm playing a much stronger player than I. My greatest weakness was probably thinking that I needed to do something drastic to create counter play, when actually just bettering my possition with Bb7 would have been far stronger......! thank you for pointing those out to me.

ArtNJ

C6 & b5 is absolutely normal in the Meran version of the QGD & semi-slav, but the positions are different and cry out for different treatment.  Here, with the bishop bearing down the diagonal, 8. ... c5 immediately is much more natural.  You could also play a6, still with the idea of b5, reserving the possibility of c5 in one shot.  As far as 10 ... ba6, the idea of freeing yourself with b5 just doesn't work.  In the game, 14. d5 points out the whole flaw in the system -- white can't actually recapture the bpawn without giving black a powerful attack.  Sub-experts like us may need stockfish to understand the intricacies, but there can still be a visual reaction of "wait, with white having this large center and natural development, do I have time for this?"  That is why I referred to it as a teachable moment -- the move looks visually wrong to me & wrong on principle, even if I need Stockfish or a lot of work to understand exactly why black is toast with your idea for pawn recapture.  

DiscipleOfKeres

Try not to let your emotions get in the way. I also have a problem with this because I beat myself up for stupid mistakes after a game. Chess is a game that requires patience, and sometimes a little determination is needed to secure a win or draw. Take your time as well. If you have plenty of time on the clock, use it. You are in no rush. You sat down to play a full length game, so play one.

FluffyThunderKarp

Thank you, I will take all of this advice on board and remember these important moments in future games. Once again I really appreciate your time and help, it's absolutely invaluable. And thanks Dennis for the words about not beating myself up over it. I will try not to let my emotions affect my game.

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
This is a really good thread and I’m sorry for being immature,but “graded game?”
FluffyThunderKarp

Ah thanks for the complement... I hope you liked the game happy.png Graded as in it counted towards my ECF/ FIDE rating. Also it was an internal club competition so if I had won it would have been a great victory for my grade, and my standing in the tournament. A real shame that I blundered so dreadfully :/

 

Fixedthx

onight I was feeling lucky punk

FluffyThunderKarp

You know it.... I swear to god some of the lower rated players at the club where looking over my shoulders at the board with varying degrees of confusement' on their faces (yeah I just invented a word) as if they'd never seen a QGA before in their lives...... surprise.png "huuuuuuuuuu what is this dark magic, D takes C, Noooooooooooo Surely not, It must be an illegal move or something"

FluffyThunderKarp

Just a quick one I played a friendly against our club champion this evening after our proper game and I thought I'd share this hilarious trap that ensued... I played black, I do win the knight, But he's a 2100 so um yeah I still lost, but it was funny none the less!