Bxf2+ dilemma


  • 4 years ago · Quote · #1

    DJAbacus

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #2

    ivandh

    Because Bxf2 is a retarded move

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #3

    Kens_Mom

    Repeating what ivandh has already said, preventing the white king from castling is not enough compensation for the sacrificed piece.  Just continue developing with moves like Nf3.  If black plays Bxf2 and you recapture with the king, black has no immediate way of exploiting your uncastled king.  Your king should then be able to find shelter on the king's side without much difficulty.

    Qe2 on the other hand is a bit awkward since it blocks the diagnal for your light square bishop, and the queen isn't really developed on that square.  The lead in development would give black an advantage.  Also, black can easily place his knight on d4 in this position, which would be annoying for white to deal with.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #4

    DJAbacus

    Kens_Mom wrote:

    .... preventing the white king from castling is not enough compensation for the sacrificed piece.  


    Yes, this is the question I was really trying to ask. 

    Thanks for your informative reply.

    Smile

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #5

    ponz111

    Ken's Mom gave you very good advice!

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #6

    NachtWulf

    Sacrificing material to weaken a king's defense is only a reasonable option when the sacrificing side has several active pieces and can unleash a well-calculated attack following up the sacrifice. In the scenario given, the bishop is the only active pieces, so white would have plenty of time to ward off any attacks following the sacrifice.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #7

    TeraHammer

    The best way to find out, is to play Bxf7 or Bxf2 in such early positions like that yourself - and see that you have nothing really. :-)

    The white King can easily "slow-castle". 

    Heck, then, the half-open f-file might even be good for white.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #8

    Scottrf

    TeraHammer wrote:

    The best way to find out, is to play Bxf7 or Bxf2 in such early positions like that yourself - and see that you have nothing really. :-)

    You just lost Icaro a game, 2 years later :(

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #9

    Lemontree321

    Believe it or not, played it myself but ussually started developing quietly and when I saw white had a chance to castle I sacrificed. I got a few very interesting games (Played it 4 times 3 wins 1 loss) For the 1 loss I sacrificed too early.... my mistake.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #10

    Fiveofswords

    Lemontree321 wrote:

    Believe it or not, played it myself but ussually started developing quietly and when I saw white had a chance to castle I sacrificed. I got a few very interesting games (Played it 4 times 3 wins 1 loss) For the 1 loss I sacrificed too early.... my mistake.

    there exist positiosn where such a sacrifice is reasonable. But mroe likely your oppoennts were jsut really bad. Since they were so bad you probably would have had an easier time winning with more logical play. You dont need to have extra material to blunder.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #11

    X_PLAYER_J_X

    LOL@ the Dialogue on this forum should be put into a shakespearean play.

    I fell out of my chair laughing.

    I couldn't stop laughing LOL.

    It looks like people were brutally honest 4 years ago LOL.

    They didn't hold back anything HA HA.


     

    Narrator: The OP is looking for insight on a dilemma.

     

    The OP: Leaned me your ears lady's and gentlemen!

    The OP: A quarrel between the Bishop and the King as arisen.

    The OP: To play Bxf2+ or not to play Bxf2+ for that is the question?

    The OP: A question which I am dare say I am afraid to have answered!

    The OP: Fearing grave peril, I moved the queen to help shelter her majesty with the move Qe2.

    The OP: Was my decision just?

     

    Commenter 2 enters the stage

     

    Commenter 2:  NO because only a retard would play such a move.

     

    Commenter 2 exits the stage with doves flying in the background for dramatic effect.

     

     

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

    I can't help it.

    I have to laugh again even while doing a shakespearean play of it.

    HAHHHAHAHAHAAHAH

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #12

    TheSonOfSorrow82

    ivandh wrote:

    Because Bxf2 is a retarded move

     

    This. If your opponent commits an unsound sacrifice and wants to give you a bishop for a pawn - Take it!. Then just retreat the king back to it's original position when he throws in the meaningless check with his queen. You're playing someone who knows absolutely nothing about chess if he sacs his bishop there.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #13

    Lemontree321

    Oh well I am stupid......... I still like doing it. It keeps up an exciting game.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #14

    X_PLAYER_J_X

    Lemontree321 wrote:

    Oh well I am stupid......... I still like doing it. It keeps up an exciting game.

    In the above OP diagram Sac-ing because you can is losing.

    Your excitement why it may happen in the begin will be short lived after white defends correctly.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #15

    Lemontree321

    I develope quickly and ussually when i am nearly done my opponent doesnt castle yet so i start attacking. (my bishop is in place waiting for the right moment)

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #16

    TheSonOfSorrow82

    Lemontree321 wrote:

    I develope quickly and ussually when i am nearly done my opponent doesnt castle yet so i start attacking. (my bishop is in place waiting for the right moment)

     

    So in other words: You don't care if it's a losing move that weakens your position and gives your opponent a material advantage. It's "fun" for you to throw the bishop away so you're going to keep doing it. Am I understanding this correctly?

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #17

    Lemontree321

    Nope 

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #18

    Fiveofswords

    Lemontree321 wrote:

    Oh well I am stupid......... I still like doing it. It keeps up an exciting game.

    i would guess that if you figured out a way to get an exciting tricky game WITHOUT losing decisive material (and being objectively lost), you would do it. Am i right? well there are ways. You jsut have to bite the bullet an do some homework.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #19

    Taulmaril

    X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

    It looks like people were brutally honest 4 years ago

    This was back before the PC people took over.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #20

    Lemontree321

    Fiveofswords I hate bullet 


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