Did I take the draw too early?

ujanninja

I played this game today on chess.com. I was 2 pawns up in the endgame, and after trying for a while, I didn't make any progress and settled for a draw. Should I have kept going for a win?

https://www.chess.com/live#a=774213

notmtwain
ujanninja wrote:

I played this game today on chess.com. I was 2 pawns up in the endgame, and after trying for a while, I didn't make any progress and settled for a draw. Should I have kept going for a win?

https://www.chess.com/live#a=774213


Charge the rook.

Optimissed

The best white can force is create two pawns against zero but your pawns are on the a and h files.

I think it's a draw.

ArtNJ

Stockfish realizes it is not a draw at depth 41 and then the evaluation starts to skyrocket.  I'll be *&^%ed if I can understand wth it is doing though.  Need a master to help us.  

Considering stockfish thought it was a draw at depth 41 (well, all three top choices scored the same (+3.94) and hadn't changed eval in a while which I interpret as thinking its a draw), I wouldn't feel bad at all.  

ujanninja
notmtwain wrote:
ujanninja wrote:

I played this game today on chess.com. I was 2 pawns up in the endgame, and after trying for a while, I didn't make any progress and settled for a draw. Should I have kept going for a win?

https://www.chess.com/live#a=774213

 


Charge the rook.

I am pretty sure I did that

ujanninja

I saw the stock fish analysis as well, but I don't think white can make any real progress

ghost_of_pushwood

I like 32 Rd2.  And if 32... Rc1 33 a4 Rxc4 34 Ra2.  With the rook behind the passer, you should be able to win.

Optimissed

I thought there was a chance of a win. It would depend on a zugzwang. Black's K cannot leave g7 and h7 and the rook cannot leave the a file except with a check. If white pushes his h pawn, It stops at h6 and black cannot take it. So the K is stuck on h7 but the rook can move and then check the white K when it approaches. Then white's K approaches the black king and  black has more checks and this doesn't work. If white can create a passed f pawn, white wins.

So white plays Kf3 then g3. Black has to take, otherwise white gets the passed f pawn and white recaptures Kxg3. Then white plays h3, black takes with check and white has his passed f pawn. I got that far but .... I agree with the previous poster. Just settle for a draw maybe.

Optimissed
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

I like 32 Rd2.  And if 32... Rc1 33 a4 Rxc4 34 Ra2.  With the rook behind the passer, you should be able to win.>>

Taking moves back's cheating! happy.png

 

Laskersnephew

This is a very instructive position for a relatively weak endgame player like me. As far as I can tell, white can win this if he can trade down all the kingside pawns so that he is left with an f-pawn. A g or h-pawn won't do! With a f-pawn

With a g-pawn

 

ghost_of_pushwood
Optimissed wrote:
Taking moves back's cheating!

 

When there's nothing much doing at the moment, it's time to go back in the archives. happy.png

Optimissed

ah

Laskersnephew

That was my long-winded way of saying that I think White has winning chances here. I think 68.Ke3 was a step in the wrong direction. I would try 68.g3  hxg3 69.Kxg3! and see if I could win it

Optimissed

Winning chances from the final position is all that counts, seeing as the diagrams don't work.

Laskersnephew
Optimissed wrote:

Winning chances from the final position is all that counts, seeing as the diagrams don't work.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. 

ghost_of_pushwood

Ask your uncle!

sseim15

MAN, you could've easily promoted that pawn!

ghost_of_pushwood

good point!

Bartjojo

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infidel-catto

42.a7 was kinda plonk. better to march the king up to a7, free the rook, queen the pawn, bobs yer teapot.