Is black really attacking?

MrG33k

Just played a game and like certain things about it, now wondering if from 3rd party perspective it looks like black is aggressively attacking? here is the game.

MrG

 


 

MrG33k
IMBacon wrote:

Black wasted a lo of time moving his queen, and doing nothing with it.

White for some reason decided he didn't need to castle, and paid the price.  Sens your opponent a Thank You card.

Two of the most overused, and misused words in chess are "aggressive" and "attacking"

 

thank you.

ArtNJ

This was a beginner game with lots of positional and tactical mistakes on both sides.  You could learn a lot by going over it in more detail and then asking questions.  And maybe some kind person will annotate it for you if you ask.  (Not me, I'm good for spot help, but a whole game I don't have time for.)

But do go over it yourself first.  I'm sure some things will jump out.  For example, what did black miss on move 24?

xman720
IMBacon wrote:

Black wasted a lo of time moving his queen, and doing nothing with it.

White for some reason decided he didn't need to castle, and paid the price.  Sens your opponent a Thank You card.

Two of the most overused, and misused words in chess are "aggressive" and "attacking"

 

I want to comment more on this comment that black moved his queen too much. When I was a beginner and people told me this, it really frustrated me. I responded, "Yeah, well what can I do? My opponents attack my queen a lot. I'm sorry that grandmasters don't move their queen a lot because their opponents don't attack their queen, but my opponents like to make one move threads like attack my queen, so I have to move it a lot. There's nothing I can do!"

With that in mind, let me rephrase the tip as "Don't leave your queen on squares where it can be attacked so easily, move it to squares where it is more stable.

Every time your move your queen, you should think "Where can my queen be attacked from this square?" and your first instinct when your queen is attacked on where to place should be stability, not aggression, although you should still check for tactics every move, sometimes you can fork loose pieces or mate threats. This is the concrete reason to grasp why it is not okay to develop your queen early or aggressively instead of "My chess teacher said so." If you think in terms of stability, you will quickly see that d8/d1 is often the safest square for the queen and it will become less and less appetizing to see her travel away from home.

 

drmrboss

2....f5?? is very horrible move. 

I will likely die 60% of game with my equal rated 2000 players  if I play such horrible move in move 2. White will do 3.Nxe5 and get significant advantage easily.

 

 

Do you know proper opening lines for at least for first 5 to 10 moves?

blueemu

Move 24. Double Blunder.

pfren

 

maik1988

Latvian (2... f5) is probably one of the worst openings you can pick, apart from whacky bongcloud stuff. White can take on e5 with the knight or just develop and be eternally better. Apart from the opening though, black seemed to win this because he castled, honestly. White should adhere to sound opening principles more. 

hikarunaku

Lot of tactics were missed,check computer analysis in your game archive. 

MrG33k

hey guys! thank you for your harsh comments, made me take another look at how i play so, about 200 points later in rating i present two more games.

 

BTW I know i missed an epic smother mate!

 

MrG33k

 

ghost_of_pushwood

Wow, that's the second time I've seen that happen around here (after never having seen that mate before in my life...in fact, I wasn't even actually aware such a thing was possible!). grin.png

hikarunaku

I have only seen this type of mate in chess 960.

MrG33k

you guys are supposed to be criticizing me. please get to it!

ghost_of_pushwood

Okay, you missed a really goofy mate in 1.  Shape up next time!

IMBacon
MrG33k wrote:

you guys are supposed to be criticizing me. please get to it!

The only criticism i have is that you dont understand attacking in chess.  Not picking on you, just being honest.

ArtNJ

Ok, first game, 12. ... nb4 is very symptomatic of your current abilities.  Just a silly move that does absolutely nothing UNLESS your opponent bizarrely helps you mate him (known as a helpmate).  You had clearly better choices that actually do something useful.  Do a deep think on this move, post your thoughts and lets talk about it.  

Rannini
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mariners234
MrG33k wrote:

you guys are supposed to be criticizing me. please get to it!

You just make a lot of 1 move threats and hope something works out... which is ok, I basically do the same thing in speed chess lol happy.png

mariners234

I notice in none of the game he posted did he complete development, that's not good.