+1.00

  • #1

    Is it ok at club level to play positions as Black with this evaluation?

  • #2

    call me crazy but i would play +2 until my opponent is 2000+

  • #3

    I think it depends if your opponent has active pices vs inactive pieces.
    if your opponent has a rock still locked in by his own pieces he is actually playing without it -5.00, in this case it doesn't matter if you play on +3.00.
    therefore if you have very active pieces you can overwhelm your opponent with an attack not giving him time/change to be active and win.

  • #4

    This is silly to generalize about.

  • #5
    AndyClifton wrote:

    This is silly to generalize about.

    +1.00

  • #6

    In general, I agree with Andy (who is generalizing, himself, isn't he?) ...

    But...what do you mean "play"?

    A +1.00 is bad for black but even super GMs play on in positions with that eval and worse all the time -- why wouldn't you?

    But if by play you mean "aim for" as in there are positions in your opening repertoire that arrive at a +1.00 that you seek, or at least don't struggle to avoid -- I have no experience with that. I mean I suppose a black opening repertoire will inevitably include some undesirable positions and also opening evaluations are notoriously suspect... Perhaps Rybka calls a certain position +1.00 but all the masters know that eval is flawed -- it's also quite possible there are some dubious "club-favorite" opening lines that are theoretical +1.00s that nevertheless offer a Black club player great practical chances -- I just don't pay enough attention to my opening-theory to have an opinion on what's what in this regard. 

  • #7

    I never generalize!

  • #8

    That's a tough call.

  • #9

    No, you have to resign immediately. You are lost.

  • #10

    It still depends.

  • #11

    am I wrong or is 1.00 only a pawn or 3 tempi

  • #12

    Glass heart.

  • #13

    no one resigns with black with +1.00, not even GMs, you better wait till someone has definite advantage.

     

    the CPOTM* winner pdela

    *July 2011, I think

  • #14

    maybe not sure

  • #15

    Scottrf wrote:

    Glass heart.

    Bronsteinitz : balls of steel :-) I would not recognize a 1.00 and win anyway. Of course you can play this.

  • #16
    JG27Pyth wrote:

    In general, I agree with Andy (who is generalizing, himself, isn't he?) ...

    But...what do you mean "play"?

    A +1.00 is bad for black but even super GMs play on in positions with that eval and worse all the time -- why wouldn't you?

    But if by play you mean "aim for" as in there are positions in your opening repertoire that arrive at a +1.00 that you seek, or at least don't struggle to avoid -- I have no experience with that. I mean I suppose a black opening repertoire will inevitably include some undesirable positions and also opening evaluations are notoriously suspect... Perhaps Rybka calls a certain position +1.00 but all the masters know that eval is flawed -- it's also quite possible there are some dubious "club-favorite" opening lines that are theoretical +1.00s that nevertheless offer a Black club player great practical chances -- I just don't pay enough attention to my opening-theory to have an opinion on what's what in this regard. 

    Yeah I'm talking about purposely aiming for positions where Black is behind 1.00.

  • #17
    AnthonyCG wrote:
    JG27Pyth wrote:

    In general, I agree with Andy (who is generalizing, himself, isn't he?) ...

    But...what do you mean "play"?

    A +1.00 is bad for black but even super GMs play on in positions with that eval and worse all the time -- why wouldn't you?

    But if by play you mean "aim for" as in there are positions in your opening repertoire that arrive at a +1.00 that you seek, or at least don't struggle to avoid -- I have no experience with that. I mean I suppose a black opening repertoire will inevitably include some undesirable positions and also opening evaluations are notoriously suspect... Perhaps Rybka calls a certain position +1.00 but all the masters know that eval is flawed -- it's also quite possible there are some dubious "club-favorite" opening lines that are theoretical +1.00s that nevertheless offer a Black club player great practical chances -- I just don't pay enough attention to my opening-theory to have an opinion on what's what in this regard. 

    Yeah I'm talking about purposely aiming for positions where Black is behind 1.00.

    Well, I think chess players are generally divided into two camps, the one's that think dubious gambits are crap, and the one's that are totally addicted to them. At the club level where no one's book goes all that deep these things tend to do far better than they are "supposed" to.  

  • #18

    even i agree

  • #19

    Thus implying a question of sorts...

  • #20

    Depends what level club player. The majority of the time my engine rates something as +1.00 I feel that I could win the game from the position I see, of course there are exceptions. That said, im sure there would be many times id quickly lose that advantage, as would any other club player. 
    So yes they could play it, but i think many players >1600 OTB wouldnt have too much trouble realising their advantage, and at very least making the players life extremely difficult.

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