50% accounts closed in this Tournament

AlCzervik
FLchessplayer wrote:
ProphetessMio wrote:

 7 are closed for abuse!!! And only 1 for violating fair play rules and 1 closed himself

 

Strange

My experience has shown that a lot of players will close their account if they get a FVP warning ... 

some of this is beyond me, i admit. 

an nm recognizing players closing their own account, in my view, shows that the detection system here may only work sporadically. it also shows that cc's cheating group does no service to the site.

it is odd, though, that so many accounts were closed in this particular tournament. and, many of them are around my rating! i've regularly heard of high rated players that are suspicious, but, 1500's cheating?!? 

i know this is a serious subject, but, 1500 rated players cheating makes me laugh!

back to the tournament. while many accounts were closed for abuse, keep in mind that cc staff is not forthright with account closings. we regularly see an "account closed: inactive" when the person was online just an hour before. mutings and bans are never discussed. so, take the official word with a grain of salt.

MGleason

They weren't closed for cheating.  Most of them were closed for abuse.

 

When you see an "account closed: inactive", that means they closed their own account.

Postafi
MGleason wrote:

"account closed: inactive", that means they closed their own account.

So Chesscomish is different from English.

Inactive means closing your own account.

We can start compiling the newspeak dictionary now.

MGleason

I don't know why they chose the term "inactive", but if you look at an account where someone closed their own account, it tells you exactly that and tells you when they did it.

I usually use the term "self-closed", but maybe they thought that was slightly awkward wording.

MainframeSupertasker

the thing is.. they can reopen it back so its like a finite or infinite hibernation period.

Postafi

And chess.com can count these cadavers as live members.

LouStule
I stopped playing tourneys because of vacation abuse and other nefarious practices. I stick to match games with other clubs. The problem doesn’t seem as bad there and you still get the competition feel of it.
Evergreen_Warrior
LouStule wrote:
I stopped playing tourneys because of vacation abuse and other nefarious practices. I stick to match games with other clubs. The problem doesn’t seem as bad there and you still get the competition feel of it.

Vacation abuse is a huge problem. I have seen in many tournaments and still facing it and I don't think there is a solution till yet. One thing you can do is if a person is abusing vacation time you can contact staff , they will message the member to move. They might remove the person from the tournament if the person still doesn't move and genuinely abusing vacation time.

 

Marignon

My personal opinion: there is no such thing as vacation abuse.
If you wish to time out lots of games, play no vacation tournaments. Let others play at their pace.

helloardanish

Oh that's sad

CoffeeAnd420

Maybe one day some of you will realize that the absolute worst, most casual, careless players on earth play these weird correspondence games on here. Any serious, thinking, competitive player knows that the game absolutely means nothing without a good ol' clock ticking. So, in the end, my advice to you OP is: Don't take any of this too seriously or be surprised when it happens. Your opponents are hardly even opponents. Maybe it's time to put your big boy pants on and play some real chess, huh?

 

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helloardanish

maybe those people were not following the rules.

Marignon

CoffeeAnd420

People here are amateurs playing in-between their everyday duties (job, children, etc). No "serious, thinking people" have 3 hours to sit and play a classic game. Blitz is OK, but playing it you cannot learn chess.  Daily chess is a good way to improve if you take it seriously and to spend time if you play it while commuting.

JamesAgadir
Postafi a écrit :
MGleason wrote:

"account closed: inactive", that means they closed their own account.

So Chesscomish is different from English.

Inactive means closing your own account.

We can start compiling the newspeak dictionary now.

Don't criticize chess.com, it's ungood

Postafi

Chess.com includes no option in Daily Chess settings to avoid "vacationing" opponents.

You have to scroll specifically for No Vacation tournaments:

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CoffeeAnd420
Marignon wrote:

CoffeeAnd420

No "serious, thinking people" have 3 hours to sit and play a classic game.

 

This is extremely inaccurate and confusing lol. Please think about what you just wrote for a minute and perhaps edit your post.

CoffeeAnd420

He has not edited his post which means he stands by it. Folks, it's official: Marignon of Chess.com declares that ALL players who have (in history and now) engaged in classical chess games that have reached or eclipsed three hours in total length - are not "serious, thinking people".

 

Probably the most ridiculous quote in the history of Chess.

 

The guys who play 1/0 bullet on here while they take the bus to work? Serious, thinking, complex people who are demonstrating a deep and insatiable lust for the game.

Evergreen_Warrior
Marignon wrote:

My personal opinion: there is no such thing as vacation abuse.
If you wish to time out lots of games, play no vacation tournaments. Let others play at their pace.

 

Hello and Thank you for you comment but 'Vacation abuse' does exist. Which means a person coming online daily but not making a move at all and set his/her games on vacation. Mostly happens when a person is in losing position and then set on vacation. I have seen a lot.I have played more than 15000 daily games and have entered more than 2000 tournaments. I have seen this many times. 

Infact few months ago I complained about Vacation abuse for a particular member to support staff  as that member was coming online daily and playing blitz but not moving in his daily games as he was in a losing postions in lot of games in that tournament and the support staff told that member to move but he still din't and after a week that member was removed from the tournament by staff itself.

camter

Is there a thing called vacation abuse?

Yes, in spades!

Will anything be done about it?

I doubt it. 

But, just perhaps, cc could do something to mitigate it.

A common sense remedy would be easy to design.

No vacation Tourneys are too simple a remedy.

But, reining it in, is that too hard?